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Do you believe in a higher power (God, the Tao, Bastet, etc.)?
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Teh AntiSecks

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:52 pm


Let me start off by saying my denomination. I am a Unitarian, defined as:

A member of a denomination that believes that stresses individual freedom of belief, the free use of reason in religion, a united world community, and liberal social action ~ Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary.

I believe that God exists, just as the fundamental physical forces exist. As to whether or not God is male of female, I believe God is neither. I see God as more of an intangible force rather than an omnipotent being. Rather ironically, my faith is inspired by science, namely the events that lead up to the creation of a single person.

First you have the formation of the solar system from a swirling cloud of dust, 5 billion years ago. After that, you have the creation of Earth itself, 4.5 billion years ago. The protoplanet hypothesis provides the reasons for which vast bodies of water, essential to life, came into being on a desolate ball of rock. Interestingly enough, and something to be considered throughout this little rant of mine, the formation of the oceans is due to vast amounts of heat in the form of radiation and meteors which whould have been enough to destroy even the hardiest of creatures. After the creation of the oceans, volcanic eruptions release a certain mixture of gases (Ammonia, methane, hydrogen, nitrogen, and water vapor, but no oxygen) into the early atmosphere. These are exposed to energy carried by lava, sunlight, lightning, and radiation. Again, life as we know it could not exist in this state. Proteins and lipids (fats and oils) spontaneously form, buiding the basis for life. RNA, and later DNA are formed at some point, though biologists are not absolutely certain why. Then we have the history of life on Earth, encompassing proliferation in the seas, invasion of the land, rise of reptiles, fall of reptiles, rise of mammals, evolution and survival of the hominid, evolution of the human, and finally the sum total of human history to bring to where we are today. Along the way there have been numerous windfalls which led to this one path, this one reality. I see that as evidence of some omnipotent force guiding the whole ordeal.

It may seem crude to believe that, simply because we don't know how something happened, we must attribute it to the work of a higher power. Not entirely. One has to ask if we've reached the threshold, the point where science can no longer explain the world around us. Of course, people have been saying that for centuries, and they were wrong. Then again, secular science has insisted for the past hundred years that we are on the verge of creating the Unified Field Theory, and they too have been wrong, at least historically.

You know what? I've talked too long. I'd like to hear some other peoples' thoughts on God or religion in general.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:48 pm


I'm a Quaker, but I don't practice anymore sweatdrop

I don't believe in the Christian God as it's portrayed in the Bible or in most religious ceremonies. I believe in something. What that something is is extremely hard for me to explain (mostly because I don't really understand it myself). But when I need to express a particular belief, I pull images from a huge variety of religions. Because of this, I've started answering "Pantheist" when asked what my religion is. I just believe in everything, lol.

I think the greatest downfall of most of the world's major religions is that they take themselves too seriously. It's like politics. "My God is bigger than your God!" I've only met one other person in my entire life who both respects all religions and doesn't get all uppity about them either.

Akhakhu


AcerRedrum

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:58 am


I'm a pagan, I believe in both a god and goddess, though I am just starting my journy into paganism and wicca so I have yet to have my god and goddess chosen for me (Not by a higher coven or what-not, the god and goddess choose you, by giving you a stronger interest in them.) I seem to be leaning towards Bastet though.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:03 am


Also, I think you should change the pole. I believe in a god, but I know it isn't the god that you are talking about in the pole.

AcerRedrum


Akhakhu

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:46 am


Lock_Shock_Barrel
I seem to be leaning towards Bastet though.

Good choice! Music, dance, parties, and keee-yute wittle fuzzy kittens!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:46 pm


Poll changed. Thank you for pointing that out, Lock_Shock_Barrel.

You're a wicca? Cool. I don't think I've ever met a real one. I've always wanted to know about the wicca belief system and religion. What can you tell me about that?

Oh, and no offense to anybody, but I personally don't believe in organized religion. You can't trust that something like that has stayed around for thousands of years without somebody tampering with it. Not only that, but even as core belief systems I kinda respect and ignore all religions, because I believe that they all hit somewhere near the truth, but none of them are dead on.

Teh AntiSecks


lunashock

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:32 pm


I'm just not really interested in religion period. I just try to live a good life, so I'm pretty much just an agnostic.

Although I'm not Christian and my mother was Catholic but very open and understanding, I have no ill towards Christianity. In fact, I went through a dumb phase in high school/after where I was pagan/Wiccan. Nothing personal, but I just found that it was no better than Christianity in its negative points. I couldn't play the oppression, I'm different like everyone else game anymore.

Still, I utterly fascinated by studying religions. I don't bash the Bible, but I view it in a more metaphorical sense. Strangely enough, I'm married to Catholic and we have never had serious issues with varying faiths. I Don't mind my son being raised Catholic, but I also stress about other faiths as well instead of bashing any. I can't dismiss a higher power, but it's just not an important issue to me to have any type of faith. I tend to agree with a lot of my husband's Catholic ideals regarding science, which I think people often misunderstand the Church's offical stances.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:35 am


I don't believe in it.

Any of it, God, gods, goddesses, magic, ghosts, fairies, afterlife, mind reading, psychics, karma, reincarnation, an all knowing non-aligned universe, paranormal, metaphysical...nothing.

Seriously I'd have to have the beam of light from the heavens and the FINGER AND VOICE of the man himself to believe in God.

I am a staunch Pragmatist and Skeptic.

AND I think I have strong personal ethics because of my beliefs.*

If this is it, if we're just some weird a** complex carbon organism fluke on a planet that just happens to be the right distance from the sun with the right amount of moons, and we don't go on to an after life, if this is IT then it's VERY VERY important, because THIS is the only chance we get to live, it's the only chance we get for love and kinship and to develop understanding and intelligence. We have to TRY our damnedest to get it right or as right as we can because otherwise it's wasted. And what a thing to waste... the only truely important thing you'll ever get, a chance at life.

Furthermore, negatively affecting someone else's only chance at life with malicious intent then becomes that much more henious of a thing to do. To end their life early, to steal from them what they've earned, and to do so with the knowledge that you are doing it to SPECIFICALLY hurt them. Is a horrible thing.

*NB: When I say I have good personal ethics because of my beliefs does not mean you can not have good personal ethics because of yours.

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mangachan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:48 pm


I beleive that there's got to be sometype of powerful force. The fact that the planet is here, the perfect distance from the sun and everything is perfectly balanced right down to each molecule, there's got to be something. I do believe there is a powerful force that most of us worship, we just interpret differently. I don't believe everything in the bible because people wrote it, not God and we all know people were not around when the Earth was made and people that could actually write were not around to write about the creation of everything. That is why I believe that the dinosaurs and all that existed even though it's not in the bible. How can the people who wrote about the bible write about something that they didn't see and know existed?

I don't like to talk about my beleifs to people because church people I know get mad when you don't think exactly like them, and some science people try to treat you like you're stupid.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:35 am


I am what some people would call a pagan I belive in the god and godess as Lock_Shock_Barrel dose and I fell that my belife in them has helped me realize who I am and what I want in my life and other that that wicca is something that is fun. It is something that you can just let yourself free with.I was a christian(sp?) when I was younger but as I grew up I started to really doubt the whole "god" thing. Now before anyone gets effended let me explain myself: If there really was a god then why do people suffer? And better yet why are there hundreds of inocent children dieing each day do to things such as starvation, abuse, and nigletct? If there really is a god then why dont we live in a better world? I mean really think about it if you are a christian(sp?) you know that you are tought from an early age that god is all powerful and that he/she/it can make anything happen well if that is true then why the hell do we live in such a (for lack of a better word) horrible world?

RinoaRose

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