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Chaos Knights have the option for lances or those fancy magic sword wotsits. What do you guys think is more effective in the long run?

A str 6 charge, followed up by slugging it out later rounds with str 4?

Or always being str 5?

I'm trying to figure this out. I've been reading up on the book, and plan on doing a cavalry army. neutral

Average of eight hits, six wounding hits [At -3, so even a Gromril Hand & Shield Dwarf unit would take four casualties]. I'd say though that this depends on the unit's toughness and armor. T3, light / no armor units [High Elf spearmen, for instance] are fine enough to attack with the magic blades. You'll be needing 3's and 2's anyways.

Goblins and WS2 infantry will need 6's [even if passing fear], other units 5's. This could be very helpful, only other thing you could do to make this easier is Frenzy them up. This can be risky and a liability though.

Of course, I was using that as an example. I would never use Cavalry against any unit that I cannot be sure of getting at least four more kills against on the charge, unless [of course] flanking or attacking the rear.


Against HE they still have some use. In the above scenario we're speaking a 150mm frontage, or 9 attacking HE's each rank potentially. However, for simplicities [and common game unit sizes] sake, we'll put them at an 8x4 unit. 24 Attacks will (Against Nurglite Chaos Knights) secure eight hits, which in turn will secure 8/3 wounds, or 2.6. With your save of 2+, you should suffer no losses, but again for simplicities sake we'll say one due to poor rolling or the Elf getting lucky with wounds caused.

Five Knights back, eleven attacks. Seven hits on average, with roughly five slaying hits on average. Then the horses, who will on average get 2.5 [Or 2] hits, and 1.6 [or one] wound. Averages would put you at six kills to their one. Combat res, they have three ranks and an outnumbering against you [which, combined with their standard and wound, is a total of six points on their side]. You, meanwhile, will have caused six wounds and hold a standard. You would 'win' by one.

Of course, to make this fair we could likely assume this was the only one of three Chaos Knight units to reach combat. They don't have to fear the Infantry [especially if flanking] so much as those annoying Bolt Throwers.

Against shooty HE armies though, I will admit chaos is a bit FUBARed. Your basic infantry may be 'ard, but it can still only move 8" a turn and has only a 5+ save against the Repeating shots [of which they can potentially churn out 16 of each turn at 2K points], no save against the single-shot. But then one must consider all the bows, mages, etc.

So, summarizing: CQC Elves: Chaos do good. Shooty / Magic Elves: Chaos do bad.

charging my khorne army is like charging a meat grinder. twisted

yeah, the one army i can never beat is undead, theyre too 'scarey' when it comes to morale tests and my chaos knights just crap there pants and run away for no aparant reason. stare