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 Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:28 pm
A common Pro-Choice argument: "If abortion is made illegal, then women just become subjugated to mere incubators." And when confronted with the fact that they just said pregnant women are incubators, thus insulting even willingly pregnant women, they say, "Well only if they are pregnant and don't want to be."
Why does the desire to be pregnant make it any different? If we design an "incubator" that likes incubating, waste of good AI technology but nonetheless, does that make them something more then an incubator? No. They just become a "happy" incubator.
So, if women forced to remain pregnant are "mere incubators," an idea that I find strange since I didn't realise that pregnant women suddenly are unable to do anything at all, doesn't that mean that women who are pregnant willingly are also "mere incubators?" Just "mere happy incubators?"
I find this idea insulting, since my mom was pregnant with 8 kids, not at once of course, and it didn't stop her from doing things. She still did the same things she did before she was pregnant. She has never smoked, she only drinks on extremely rare occasions and then it's very little, and she doesn't do rollercoasters. So how did becoming pregnant change her at all? Does that mean that she's "a mere incubator" year round? Because she doesn't make a very large change?
How dare they insult my mother like that?
Discuss.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:50 pm
Well if that's the case then I am one faulty incubator! I mean I couldn't even stay pregnant the whole 9 months. My incubator stopped functioning at 23 weeks and then it was only medicine and the grace of God that kept my little one growing.
It looks like Oliver might need to trade up, I mean he really shouldnt want a defective incubator I might cause problems or somethign and who wants that?
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:43 am
I.Am A common Pro-Choice argument: "If abortion is made illegal, then women just become subjugated to mere incubators." And when confronted with the fact that they just said pregnant women are incubators, thus insulting even willingly pregnant women, they say, "Well only if they are pregnant and don't want to be." Why does the desire to be pregnant make it any different? If we design an "incubator" that likes incubating, waste of good AI technology but nonetheless, does that make them something more then an incubator? No. They just become a "happy" incubator. So, if women forced to remain pregnant are "mere incubators," an idea that I find strange since I didn't realise that pregnant women suddenly are unable to do anything at all, doesn't that mean that women who are pregnant willingly are also "mere incubators?" Just "mere happy incubators?" I find this idea insulting, since my mom was pregnant with 8 kids, not at once of course, and it didn't stop her from doing things. She still did the same things she did before she was pregnant. She has never smoked, she only drinks on extremely rare occasions and then it's very little, and she doesn't do rollercoasters. So how did becoming pregnant change her at all? Does that mean that she's "a mere incubator" year round? Because she doesn't make a very large change? How dare they insult my mother like that? Discuss. it's not like once pregnant, women are tied to a tree and left to ferment for 9 months- in fact, about half the pregnancy is pretty much impossible to notice to anyone who isn't told... and maternity leave is what, 2 months? wow, what a huge chunk of your life, ya know, consiering all that it does is, um... bring new life into the world... rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:56 am
*Applauds* It never really made sense to me. I always have to bite my tongue to keep from asking how they could possibly say that pregnant women are incubators. It's pretty insulting. Then again, I suppose I wouldn't understand because people who're prolife don't care about women at all, they just think they do.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:03 am
I guess I dont have their desired result but to me the concept of women being incubators doesnt necessarally have a negative effect on me. An incubator saved my son's life pure and simple, had he not had one he would be dead. An incubator took up where I could not finish. Here's a picture of holden in an incubator...where's the evil in this? 
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:12 pm
Broorel I guess I dont have their desired result but to me the concept of women being incubators doesnt necessarally have a negative effect on me. An incubator saved my son's life pure and simple, had he not had one he would be dead. An incubator took up where I could not finish. Here's a picture of holden in an incubator...where's the evil in this? well, it is supposed to make lifers out to be vile, woman-hating slave owners who want nothing more than to devalue the female body into a machine. confused who new that valuing human life more than 4 months of discomfort was pro-punishment, let alone devaluing human life itself...
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:46 pm
ah yes the ol' pro-punishment argument...well I know it sucks guys, but you can't kill someone just because they inconvienance you...if that's punishment then so be it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:58 pm
Broorel ah yes the ol' pro-punishment argument...well I know it sucks guys, but you can't kill someone just because they inconvienance you...if that's punishment then so be it. Yeah... Jeez, amusement parks are always punishing my little siblings because they are too short. sad Won't let them on the roller coasters. That's punishment. Who cares if there's a silly reason like "Someone might die from it."
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:55 pm
I.Am Who cares if there's a silly reason like "Someone might die from it."
On to my opinion. My mom had 7 kids, and she did not know how she could ever take care of her 5th kid before he was born with all the others needing attention. Of course the story had a very happy ending, but my point is, the pregnancy was not exactly convenient for her, but that doesn't mean she was an incubator for those 8 3/4 months.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:27 pm
They don't really know what incubaters really are. There sort of like life support and help keep you warm. Woman are must more then that, their the ones that seem anti-woman by insulting us and the way our bodies work. They rather kill then to let the reason why woman are different then men, to carry life and give birth to it. That's why there is man and woman or we would all be just one gender.
If they don't want it. Either use both protection and birth control and learn to use it right ( they don't fail that often when used together and properly. It's usually human errors on their part that it fails) or just don't have sex if you can handle alittle responsablity (meaning safer sex).
Mom went to work until the month before and after I was born (maybe less then that), she was fine the whole time she said, the worse was she felt tired or hungry but she worked at the hospital at the time so tiredness could of been caused by that. She didn't stop her life cause of me, she did want she wanted as long as I won't be harmed in anyway.
I was the only kid she had ( she was married before she married my dad) but that doesn't mean she was an incubater, that's a insult to mothers out there.
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:08 pm
They've got a pretty dim view of women if they think banning abortion would automatically make us all incubators. 'Cause, y'know, the only reason I'm not pregnant and slaving over a stove for 10 kids and a lazy, abusive hubby is because abortion is legal... rolleyes
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:31 pm
La Veuve Zin They've got a pretty dim view of women if they think banning abortion would automatically make us all incubators. 'Cause, y'know, the only reason I'm not pregnant and slaving over a stove for 10 kids and a lazy, abusive hubby is because abortion is legal... rolleyes yes, but you see, they have to justify their actions too- hey, here's a noble cause- freedom! peace! happiness! that's what hitler was after- peace for the world, by destroying everything that was different, making a world where everyone is physically and genetically equal- thus, no hate. any good thing can be perverted or twisted enough to suit evil. in the pro-choice case, we have freedom being twisted to include freedom to kill the unborn.
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:09 am
Incubators...who on earth thought of such a horrid thing? That is without a doubt probably the most offensive thing I have ever heard in terms of pregnancy.
That is just sick!
Although I, myself have never been a mother, I cannot help but wonder how such a person would describe a happy expecting mother.
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:00 am
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