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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:36 am
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force TANRailgun The Living Force Means you hate happiness and freedom and America! biggrin Oh god, don't even joke about that...I hear that s**t all the damn time. I'm a socialist, so I get it worse, since you only get blasted when you bring it up. I'm persona non grata before I even enter the room. Also, the point stands. SONG WAS GOOD. So... You're socialist. Yes? .___. Damn commie.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:42 am
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force TANRailgun The Living Force Means you hate happiness and freedom and America! biggrin Oh god, don't even joke about that...I hear that s**t all the damn time. I'm a socialist, so I get it worse, since you only get blasted when you bring it up. I'm persona non grata before I even enter the room. Also, the point stands. SONG WAS GOOD. So... You're socialist. Yes? .___. Damn commie. Cool.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:24 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force I'm a socialist, so I get it worse, since you only get blasted when you bring it up. I'm persona non grata before I even enter the room. Also, the point stands. SONG WAS GOOD. So... You're socialist. Yes? .___. Damn commie. Cool. Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:30 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force I'm a socialist, so I get it worse, since you only get blasted when you bring it up. I'm persona non grata before I even enter the room. Also, the point stands. SONG WAS GOOD. So... You're socialist. Yes? .___. Damn commie. Cool. Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:35 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"?
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:41 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"? Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:44 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"? Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:45 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 Actually, to be honest, I want you to discuss with me, at length, what your political views are and what you think would be best/applicable/what you want for society. ninja  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"? Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:51 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"? Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite. Um... So... What's your economic view on stuff? xp Personally I wouldn't mind the nationalization of majr corporations. If they came under national control I bet they would become a lot more altruistic and we could get some military like discipline up in dere as well as provide stuff for cheaper. Partly becuase a CEO on government salary would be making 500,000 instead of a billion and partly becuase cellphones can't be free unless cellphone people lose money- but, if you took money away from other successful businesses that had excess, everyone could have free cellphones. If you pool your resources you can make a lot more money and get a lot more things done efficiently. But that's just me.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:55 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force  Social equality, controls on business, constitutional insurance of democracy through guaranteed voter equality achieved by elimination of campaign fund donations. Again, constitutionally protected. Proportional representation in all elections, insuring that the legislature is actually representative of values. Strong environmentalist mindset, aided in part by business controls. Religious liberty, bill of rights, et cetera. So what do you mean by "social equality" and "business control"? Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite. Um... So... What's your economic view on stuff? xp Personally I wouldn't mind the nationalization of majr corporations. If they came under national control I bet they would become a lot more altruistic and we could get some military like discipline up in dere as well as provide stuff for cheaper. Partly becuase a CEO on government salary would be making 500,000 instead of a billion and partly becuase cellphones can't be free unless cellphone people lose money- but, if you took money away from other successful businesses that had excess, everyone could have free cellphones. If you pool your resources you can make a lot more money and get a lot more things done efficiently. But that's just me. Nationalization would be ruinous to the American economy if only because most major corporations only operate headquarters and distribution centers in the US (horizontal integration). They'd cut their losses and move out and then refuse sales here, and we'd only get hurt. And that's just with them. We'd also get hit hard by the WTO, which we're a member of, for engaging in anti-market policy.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:57 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite. Um... So... What's your economic view on stuff? xp Personally I wouldn't mind the nationalization of majr corporations. If they came under national control I bet they would become a lot more altruistic and we could get some military like discipline up in dere as well as provide stuff for cheaper. Partly becuase a CEO on government salary would be making 500,000 instead of a billion and partly becuase cellphones can't be free unless cellphone people lose money- but, if you took money away from other successful businesses that had excess, everyone could have free cellphones. If you pool your resources you can make a lot more money and get a lot more things done efficiently. But that's just me. Nationalization would be ruinous to the American economy if only because most major corporations only operate headquarters and distribution centers in the US (horizontal integration). They'd cut their losses and move out and then refuse sales here, and we'd only get hurt. And that's just with them. We'd also get hit hard by the WTO, which we're a member of, for engaging in anti-market policy. Nah, we'd be fine. Switzerland and China seem to be doing just fine. I don't see how a corporation would leave if we idk, already took control of it; what, all of their workers are just going to move to China with them? But I say we compensate with raw power and just get thorium powering everything. Then everything would be cheaper; problem solved. After that it's robot.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:59 pm
Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Guarantees that no demographic will be discriminated against in any sphere under the government. No housing discrimination, business discrimination, et cetera, based upon demographics. Business control would be preventing bribery, sabotage, et cetera which are detrimental to a healthy democracy. Capitalism would be fine if not for the fact that as it stands, it is far too free which erodes the foundation upon which our democracy stands. I think capitalism can be applicable. With heavy regulation. And if we only have some rules apply to say, corporations and stuff. What if all corporations were employees of the government? O_o That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite. Um... So... What's your economic view on stuff? xp Personally I wouldn't mind the nationalization of majr corporations. If they came under national control I bet they would become a lot more altruistic and we could get some military like discipline up in dere as well as provide stuff for cheaper. Partly becuase a CEO on government salary would be making 500,000 instead of a billion and partly becuase cellphones can't be free unless cellphone people lose money- but, if you took money away from other successful businesses that had excess, everyone could have free cellphones. If you pool your resources you can make a lot more money and get a lot more things done efficiently. But that's just me. Nationalization would be ruinous to the American economy if only because most major corporations only operate headquarters and distribution centers in the US (horizontal integration). They'd cut their losses and move out and then refuse sales here, and we'd only get hurt. And that's just with them. We'd also get hit hard by the WTO, which we're a member of, for engaging in anti-market policy. Nah, we'd be fine. Switzerland and China seem to be doing just fine. But I say we compensate with raw power and just get thorium powering everything. Then everything would be cheaper; problem solved. After that it's robot. Incorrect. Neither nationalize business because it would be ruinous to do so. China effectively runs its economy, which is looked down upon, but is different. And energy is only one issue.
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Suicidesoldier#1 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:21 pm
The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force Suicidesoldier#1 The Living Force That would require nationalization of businesses and I'm not in favor of that. So I'm effectively Socialista-Lite. Um... So... What's your economic view on stuff? xp Personally I wouldn't mind the nationalization of majr corporations. If they came under national control I bet they would become a lot more altruistic and we could get some military like discipline up in dere as well as provide stuff for cheaper. Partly becuase a CEO on government salary would be making 500,000 instead of a billion and partly becuase cellphones can't be free unless cellphone people lose money- but, if you took money away from other successful businesses that had excess, everyone could have free cellphones. If you pool your resources you can make a lot more money and get a lot more things done efficiently. But that's just me. Nationalization would be ruinous to the American economy if only because most major corporations only operate headquarters and distribution centers in the US (horizontal integration). They'd cut their losses and move out and then refuse sales here, and we'd only get hurt. And that's just with them. We'd also get hit hard by the WTO, which we're a member of, for engaging in anti-market policy. Nah, we'd be fine. Switzerland and China seem to be doing just fine. But I say we compensate with raw power and just get thorium powering everything. Then everything would be cheaper; problem solved. After that it's robot. Incorrect. Neither nationalize business because it would be ruinous to do so. China effectively runs its economy, which is looked down upon, but is different. And energy is only one issue. But enough of an issue to set us over the edge. Let's take marbles for instance. Even with Chinese slave babies they still subsidize every marble by cutting the price in half. Chinese marbles are 28 cents a pop, while the cost of electricity of ours alone is 21 cents. They would be selling their marbles for about 56 cents a pound if they weren't subsidized. But we can get away with selling ours (well, in mass production for say spray paint cans) for about 46 cents a pop- that means that if you reduced the cost of electricity by about 90%, you'd walk away selling a marble for about 27 cents, beating the Chinese without throwing money away. And all their current money spent to drive us out of business would be a sunk cost. Considering how much electricity we use, compared to the Chinese that use a crapload of coal (only at about 1% efficiency, damn bastards) and a lot of manual labor, I think we'd see similiar things follow suit. Every American would rake in a few hundred more dollars per year and business would probably see a huge boom- things such as carbon fiber would be a lot cheaper sense like 90% of the cost is electricity (it's made from nylon, it's just perfect burn control required at 2100 degrees+ that drives up the cost) hell turn lead or mercury into gold for a cheaper price than electricity (which as of now is between 6-9 times the price of gold lol) and sell it to other countries. I mean damn. A lot of other opportunities come up with the raw power in addition to just driving down the cost of everything. If we switched over to electric cars than the price of shipping would go down lowering the cost of everything and the majority of people would probably see annual savings of a few thousand dollars as well. That's more money to spend and more money business is making and for no real cost, sense thorium is just better. It's not all of it but it's a huge chunk. Definitely a lot to work with. Hell, we'd only need one, but I propose three, so if one shuts down, to restart other ones etc.
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