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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:34 am
So, two pastors I have always loved listening too in my town, because they have fantastic ways of looking at the bible, it's very spiritual, they try their best to expand on it and you can tell their heart is in it completely, meaning a lot of spiritual people would take it that God is speaking through them, in one way or another.
Anyway, they have been on multiple occasions passionate about the idea of Jesus being predicted in the Bible not just through the prophecies, but through symbolism of certain people as well. One of the first, I would say, is Abraham, Isaac and the Sheep. I personally love the idea of the Sheep representing Christ coming to save Abraham from sinning against his son, and God. What is more interesting, is the Sheep is stuck in a thorn bush, which Jesus, as we all know, wears a crown of thorns. They sheep is then sacrificed to God, giving thanks for saving Isaac AND Abraham. I believe this to be the real first prophecy of Jesus.
Then there is Ruth, I can't remember exactly the comparisons, but I believe it was her selflessness that was extraordinary. I will have to look it up. I haven't really read Ruth, ha. Supposed to be a good read too.
I believe another would be Daniel, he is a savoir in his own way, and he even willingly get's thrown into a furnace to save others. Whats even more interesting though, is that either Jesus, or The Angel of God, saved him from the furnace.
Elijah is compared to Jesus and John the Baptist in the New Testament actually, for he is probably one of the greatest prophets of the Old Testament. He did many things, raise people from the dead, to some simple miracles... He was basically the final forebear of Jesus... showing what is to come.
What do you guys think? Any symbolism I missed? Job maybe?
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:51 am
Some of the symbolism is a bit of a stretch I think personally. While they can be seen and used as prophecy of Jesus, they detract and sometimes undermine the message of the Old Testament narratives in question and often leads to taking verses out of context. Now it is recorded that Jesus is like Elijah in the New Testament but it is done so in a way to contrast him from Elijah. Luke 9 51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; 53 but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. 54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them, just as Elijah did?” 55 But Jesus turned and rebuked them. 56 Then he and his disciples went to another village. While he did have similar abilities to Elijah, his mission and nature were fundamentally different and at times opposed. There's passages where Elijah summoned bears to maul children who teased him and called down fire to destroy cities. His death was pretty epic since he didn't technically die but a chariot of fire came down to bring him to heaven.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:08 am
rmcdra Some of the symbolism is a bit of a stretch I think personally. While they can be seen and used as prophecy of Jesus, they detract and sometimes undermine the message of the Old Testament narratives in question and often leads to taking verses out of context. Now it is recorded that Jesus is like Elijah in the New Testament but it is done so in a way to contrast him from Elijah. Luke 9 51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. 52 And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; 53 but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. 54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them, just as Elijah did?” 55 But Jesus turned and rebuked them. 56 Then he and his disciples went to another village. While he did have similar abilities to Elijah, his mission and nature were fundamentally different and at times opposed. There's passages where Elijah summoned bears to maul children who teased him and called down fire to destroy cities. His death was pretty epic since he didn't technically die but a chariot of fire came down to bring him to heaven. Epic exit, and Jesus gets an epic entry during apocalypse! Woo!
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:13 am
Okay I've looked a little more into this. It's called a prophetic interpretation. It actually requires an understanding of the history and culture in question to accurately use. Not quite my thing but very interesting none the less and from what I'm seeing of this view it helps foster a mature examination of scripture and helps very nicely with building a relationship with Christ.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:04 am
rmcdra Okay I've looked a little more into this. It's called a prophetic interpretation. It actually requires an understanding of the history and culture in question to accurately use. Not quite my thing but very interesting none the less and from what I'm seeing of this view it helps foster a mature examination of scripture and helps very nicely with building a relationship with Christ. Ah, right. So you gotta get a lot of philosophical wisdom, but in a spiritual way... to really understand how deep the symbolism really is... or what ever. According to what the Bible has, at least...
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