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 Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:53 pm
Dorian Requiem Can't argue with the ultimate power of this guild, now can I? lol
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:48 pm
Starlock Hmm... yeah, my reasons for not putting much stock in the concept of otherkin has more to do with the fact that I reject the separation of human and nonhuman animals (and from a scientific standpoint this so-called Great Divide really doesn't exist either). There are also aspects of how I see souls that make the concept of 'soul ownership' an illusion to begin with; there's no 'human soul' any more than there's a 'nonhuman animal soul' in my system. I won't go into my soul theory here as it really isn't that important. What it doesn't say is that it's outright wrong to believe you've got a nonhuman soul because in many respects my soul theory says we ALL have 'nonhuman souls' in a respect since souls are not discreet, individual entities to begin with any more than physical matter is. Of course then there *are* people who make such claims of 'specialness' to be 'oh, look at me!' but... case by case basis. Why dismiss everyone who makes such claims with one fell swoop? That sort of thing just isn't in my nature. I think many people hate the idea of otherkinism, becuase of all the ones running around acting like they should be worshipped. . and, well, I beleive in otherkinism becuase of well, I see the astral and physical as being close, the astral being the buildng block of the physical. . so, energy forms will fit into bodies and energy from a life is stored in the energetic body, and when one does generally you forget the past, it is cataloged, but, it isnt like, blatently in your face in the energy. . and, the line between otherkinism and whatever is very hard to see sometimes. . I mean, I have met people that seem to not really have many traces of their past lives in their personality and energy now, and, others that are so blatently affected. . . it is a difficult concept, and I dont think they are like, more special or something than other people. . everything has pros and cons. . but, to each their own. . I mean, everyone has differnet beleifs, as long as no one is trying to cram ther beleifs down my throat they dont have to get hit with walls of text. . XDD
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:34 am
sigh.
Okay.
Not sure if I want to bring any of this back into formation, since it seems like some people feel they have 'won' now that DF was banned. But now I feel that the fire is boiling down and I'm giving myself time to explain my feelings about Otherkin and Therians.
I think for the most part we have Therians settled -- but I assure you; get 10 therians in a room and ask them what therianthropy is, and you'll get 11 answers. This probably goes for Otherkin as well.
Anyway, Therians are those who have a specific "animal form" which shows up generally frequently through dreams, actions, mindsets, and spiritual travel (meditation, astral). No matter what anyone says, I don't think you can get away with being a therian with out having some major mental shift stories to tell. So in this case - even if you call it a 'spirit' thing ONLY I really do think you're kidding yourself. If someone has a spirit thing only... that, I believe, is a totem.
Now for my otherkin definition, you'll have to believe in a sort of spirit realm, magic, spirit creatures (including the assumingly 'fantasy' ones), and all that to get what I'm saying. This is something I've played around with for a bit. And I do have many theories. The first one I'm going to say is a bit corny, but I'll let you in on it anyhow.
1. Otherkin are people who were their kin in a past-life. But the reason why that part of them is strong enough to be their main side other than being human is because in previous lives, they were pretty 'normal' humans. And those souls just pass through the filter of memories and forms pretty easily. But ones like dragons, or faeries, even animals (so this will work for therians) the filter, for whatever reason, doesn't filter everything out. So the feeling of phantom limbs, and dreams from that previous life isn't washed fully away.
2. Otherkin are people who had worked with, or had several daily experiences throughout their lives with their 'kin'.
a. Perhaps their creature's spirit latched on magically during some of these occurances and it melded into its form. Being impressionable and all.
3. And then the one what seems to be the most common theory, is that they were indeed their kin in a past life.
Now.
Its up you to decifer for yourself.
These are of my experiences with mine and others i've witnessed, and talked to.
Just a little example.
I'm a coyote therian.
But I'm also kelpie-kin.
I feel that I have a strong personal connection with kelpies, through astral occurances and dreams, they treat me as family even though I've never seen myself as one. Only adapted slightly, or even adopted some of their traits. But not as a full kelpie. None-the-less. There's an odd loyalty and respect for them. And if you know anything about kelpies, you might very well say its pretty odd.
I have other connections to the fae, and dragons. Through travels, you seem to make friends. But non-so-much as kelpies. They don't speak much, but they don't need to. Its a deep heart, soul, if you will, connection.
As for being a therian, well, I think my explaination of that covers it.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:05 am
babyXphantom sigh. Okay. Not sure if I want to bring any of this back into formation, since it seems like some people feel they have 'won' now that DF was banned. But now I feel that the fire is boiling down and I'm giving myself time to explain my feelings about Otherkin and Therians. I think for the most part we have Therians settled -- but I assure you; get 10 therians in a room and ask them what therianthropy is, and you'll get 11 answers. This probably goes for Otherkin as well. Anyway, Therians are those who have a specific "animal form" which shows up generally frequently through dreams, actions, mindsets, and spiritual travel (meditation, astral). No matter what anyone says, I don't think you can get away with being a therian with out having some major mental shift stories to tell. So in this case - even if you call it a 'spirit' thing ONLY I really do think you're kidding yourself. If someone has a spirit thing only... that, I believe, is a totem. Now for my otherkin definition, you'll have to believe in a sort of spirit realm, magic, spirit creatures (including the assumingly 'fantasy' ones), and all that to get what I'm saying. This is something I've played around with for a bit. And I do have many theories. The first one I'm going to say is a bit corny, but I'll let you in on it anyhow. 1. Otherkin are people who were their kin in a past-life. But the reason why that part of them is strong enough to be their main side other than being human is because in previous lives, they were pretty 'normal' humans. And those souls just pass through the filter of memories and forms pretty easily. But ones like dragons, or faeries, even animals (so this will work for therians) the filter, for whatever reason, doesn't filter everything out. So the feeling of phantom limbs, and dreams from that previous life isn't washed fully away. 2. Otherkin are people who had worked with, or had several daily experiences throughout their lives with their 'kin'. a. Perhaps their creature's spirit latched on magically during some of these occurances and it melded into its form. Being impressionable and all. 3. And then the one what seems to be the most common theory, is that they were indeed their kin in a past life. Now. Its up you to decifer for yourself. These are of my experiences with mine and others i've witnessed, and talked to. Just a little example. I'm a coyote therian. But I'm also kelpie-kin. I feel that I have a strong personal connection with kelpies, through astral occurances and dreams, they treat me as family even though I've never seen myself as one. Only adapted slightly, or even adopted some of their traits. But not as a full kelpie. None-the-less. There's an odd loyalty and respect for them. And if you know anything about kelpies, you might very well say its pretty odd. I have other connections to the fae, and dragons. Through travels, you seem to make friends. But non-so-much as kelpies. They don't speak much, but they don't need to. Its a deep heart, soul, if you will, connection. As for being a therian, well, I think my explaination of that covers it. you dont really get it. . it was never about "winning". . it wasnt about proving that otherkin exist. . it was about someone who came into the thread and attacked us all for our beleifs, and claimed she had "proven" that otherkin do not exist. . we proved that she did not prove that they do not exist. . and, we settled on saying that each person should just go find out for themselves through experience if they beleive in otherkin or not. . and, well, for the definition we have been using here, we are only talking about peopel who have the energetic form of some other kin. . that is why people call otherkin fake, when people claim to be otherkin becuase they have friends or whatever that are of another kin. . which is why in the arguments above we weeded those out of our definition of otherkin. . becuase it makes them seem like fakers just to say that they encounter a spirit so they are a part of it. . but I know why people use that term, becuae well, their isnt any other term to describe being close to something but not really being it. . and, I suppose in some ways people probably call themselves otherkin becuase they talk to fae or something becuse they do want to feel special and as if they are not the same as everyone else. .so yah, their are assloads of different definitions, and I think that is part of the reason people call it bs so much. . lol I aggree a bit with that, I mean, I have seen an animal a lot in my dreams, and I dont call myself a tiger. . but, recognize that is my animal totem. . I suppose some people are so quick to say they are something becuase, well, again, to feel special. . Your explaination in #1 is a bit shady to me. .becuae, well, many people on earth have like, had past lives as things other than human from what I have heard, but, not all are otherkin. . so, I would think that their would be more to this filter thing than that. . and if the filter is meant to make you forget the past life energy, then I dont see why it would be unable to filter out dragons or faes, unless their was like, something else going on (like they were holding on strongly to their past as discussed in my ideas below). . . . my personal idea is that well you are suposed to like, loose the past energy so that you can fit the new form, and not have all that extra baggage of the past. . now, even when you do loose the energy of the past, their are still traces and nothing is truely ever completey lost. . so, it isnt like that life was done in vain. . anyways, when something tramatic happens in a past life, you may not be ready to move on, and cant let go of what you were. .not just tragic, but, lets say your life was so good, or this or that. . whatever reason, you are unable to let go of the past. . so, then you retain the past life energy into the present life becuase you havent been able to let it go.. to learn from it and move on. . kinda stunted. . I know people probably wont liek this explanation so much, becuase that means their are actually negative connotations with being otherkin!. .XD. . but, everything has pros and cons . . pros of otherkinism is the skills you learned then you can tape a LOT easier if you have the past energy, the cons, you are kinda stuck in the past and werent able to move on . . stunted in a way. . but yah, maybe all the otherkin out there should consider this. . is remembering and being something you were once and arent now having any negative effects?. . but yah, that is my definition from what I have learned and experienced. . and again, not trying to tell anyone that I am right and they are wrong, just getting my ideas out their. .
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:42 am
Dorian Requiem Yes, I pity everyone who decides to read everything that has been posted. We've established: DF is a b***h. I'm an a*****e. Lapis was rude. And Sin...has purple hair on her avi right now. I think we might as well leave that to turn to dust, or take it to pms. At this point any further comments would actually be bashing. P.S. Lapis, if I were to treat you like DF had been, I don't think you could ban me. Lost would have to, lol. Isn't purple a pretty color? I tried to read alot of it but failed... miserably at reading all I like my happy and I wish to keep it that way... without an evil rude bitchy headache intruding
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:45 am
Starlock Hmm... yeah, my reasons for not putting much stock in the concept of otherkin has more to do with the fact that I reject the separation of human and nonhuman animals (and from a scientific standpoint this so-called Great Divide really doesn't exist either). There are also aspects of how I see souls that make the concept of 'soul ownership' an illusion to begin with; there's no 'human soul' any more than there's a 'nonhuman animal soul' in my system. I won't go into my soul theory here as it really isn't that important. What it doesn't say is that it's outright wrong to believe you've got a nonhuman soul because in many respects my soul theory says we ALL have 'nonhuman souls' in a respect since souls are not discreet, individual entities to begin with any more than physical matter is. Of course then there *are* people who make such claims of 'specialness' to be 'oh, look at me!' but... case by case basis. Why dismiss everyone who makes such claims with one fell swoop? That sort of thing just isn't in my nature. I don't believe that just humans have souls... I believe all creatures have souls... if they have will they have a "soul" And the only differnce between one soul and another is form and the way it interacts. To have a human soul in the realms means that when your soul was created it had this form... I don't believe many people actually have human souls... As in they were created with one. I believe most people adopt the form on earth because of lack of knowledge of outside forms.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:10 am
I Wish to point saomething Out that is a flawed assumption on your part...
I'm "otherkin" Human. My Form I can trace back to my souls creation... It is a taller thinish human with a definite different structure then me (different bone formations and the like) with hair that she changes periodically from time to time.
I have spent long periods of time as far as my memories go adopting other forms and integrateing myself in other societies. I do not feel this makes me otherkin Phoenix because I spent some time as a phoenix.
It doesn't make me otherkin Griffin because at some point I decided to parade myself around as a griffin.
I love griffins... but my love doesn't make me one.
I mean... I'm not a succubus because I practice sex magic
I'm not a vampire because I can drain people of energy
Just because I like the taste of blood doesn't mean I'm a lycanthrope
I AM ME and that is what I will continue to be. I have been me since I was created. I can look however I wish... I can even mimic anatomy. I can create fake wings and beak. I can change my form but it doesn't really change me.
I have tricked people with creations and fooled people because I know the history and society. I can speak in different languages as if I was one of them. It isn't hard it just takes time. It still doesn't change who I was or what I am. I am not a phoenix because I know phoenix and speak phoenix and look like a phoenix. I wasn't created a phoenix... that form doesn't feel right.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:11 pm
Sinesthera I Wish to point saomething Out that is a flawed assumption on your part... I'm "otherkin" Human. My Form I can trace back to my souls creation... It is a taller thinish human with a definite different structure then me (different bone formations and the like) with hair that she changes periodically from time to time. I have spent long periods of time as far as my memories go adopting other forms and integrateing myself in other societies. I do not feel this makes me otherkin Phoenix because I spent some time as a phoenix. It doesn't make me otherkin Griffin because at some point I decided to parade myself around as a griffin. I love griffins... but my love doesn't make me one. I mean... I'm not a succubus because I practice sex magic I'm not a vampire because I can drain people of energy Just because I like the taste of blood doesn't mean I'm a lycanthrope I AM ME and that is what I will continue to be. I have been me since I was created. I can look however I wish... I can even mimic anatomy. I can create fake wings and beak. I can change my form but it doesn't really change me. I have tricked people with creations and fooled people because I know the history and society. I can speak in different languages as if I was one of them. It isn't hard it just takes time. It still doesn't change who I was or what I am. I am not a phoenix because I know phoenix and speak phoenix and look like a phoenix. I wasn't created a phoenix... that form doesn't feel right. well, yes, you are you. . but, soemwhere along the way, sometimes people come to identify with that which they physically were before. . you are aware of your original form, and so that is what you identify with. . but, others that dont may identify with their, well, not original form but something they were a lot, or maybe even only were once becuae that is what they know of themselves now. .
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:21 pm
babyXphantom sigh. Okay. Not sure if I want to bring any of this back into formation, since it seems like some people feel they have 'won' now that DF was banned. But now I feel that the fire is boiling down and I'm giving myself time to explain my feelings about Otherkin and Therians. I think for the most part we have Therians settled -- but I assure you; get 10 therians in a room and ask them what therianthropy is, and you'll get 11 answers. This probably goes for Otherkin as well. Anyway, Therians are those who have a specific "animal form" which shows up generally frequently through dreams, actions, mindsets, and spiritual travel (meditation, astral). No matter what anyone says, I don't think you can get away with being a therian with out having some major mental shift stories to tell. So in this case - even if you call it a 'spirit' thing ONLY I really do think you're kidding yourself. If someone has a spirit thing only... that, I believe, is a totem. Now for my otherkin definition, you'll have to believe in a sort of spirit realm, magic, spirit creatures (including the assumingly 'fantasy' ones), and all that to get what I'm saying. This is something I've played around with for a bit. And I do have many theories. The first one I'm going to say is a bit corny, but I'll let you in on it anyhow. 1. Otherkin are people who were their kin in a past-life. But the reason why that part of them is strong enough to be their main side other than being human is because in previous lives, they were pretty 'normal' humans. And those souls just pass through the filter of memories and forms pretty easily. But ones like dragons, or faeries, even animals (so this will work for therians) the filter, for whatever reason, doesn't filter everything out. So the feeling of phantom limbs, and dreams from that previous life isn't washed fully away. 2. Otherkin are people who had worked with, or had several daily experiences throughout their lives with their 'kin'. a. Perhaps their creature's spirit latched on magically during some of these occurances and it melded into its form. Being impressionable and all. 3. And then the one what seems to be the most common theory, is that they were indeed their kin in a past life. Now. Its up you to decifer for yourself. These are of my experiences with mine and others i've witnessed, and talked to. Just a little example. I'm a coyote therian. But I'm also kelpie-kin. I feel that I have a strong personal connection with kelpies, through astral occurances and dreams, they treat me as family even though I've never seen myself as one. Only adapted slightly, or even adopted some of their traits. But not as a full kelpie. None-the-less. There's an odd loyalty and respect for them. And if you know anything about kelpies, you might very well say its pretty odd. I have other connections to the fae, and dragons. Through travels, you seem to make friends. But non-so-much as kelpies. They don't speak much, but they don't need to. Its a deep heart, soul, if you will, connection. As for being a therian, well, I think my explaination of that covers it. Basically everything you said I think about. Since you didn't mention for or against the likelyness in number 1, I'll just say what I think. I think number 1 is the most likely idea, with the filter, but I also think it isn't a very common thing (doesn't happen to alot of souls a whole lot of times). I dunno what you think since you didn't mention it, but cool for having some of the same ideas *thumbs up*. And yeah, I just wanted to make the point we can't prove or disprove things, in this case otherkin.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:33 pm
Oh I get it smile
Lets try not to get hot again.
I do get it. But I suppose its what comes from my mind.
Life is a battlefield, aye?
That is all fine. And I suppose I did say I wasn't in it for the majority of it.
Only caught the last peices of it.
And I did say my first one was a bit corny, and kind of had some holes in it. But hey, its just an idea. wink Atleast we're thinking.
Ahah. Yea. I'll admit I've thought in the past that I was 'special' because I talk to the fae or rather intune with them, and I'm not sure if that was directed toward me or not. But I wouldn't say I would be that type of kin just because I or anyone else says I have a connection with some sort of thing.
Psyche, you all make sense.
No one ever was killed for thinking, and participating.
Tis all I'm doin. smile
And thanks for the additional comments, Dorian.
I think that stems from the fact that some otherkin that i've talked to don't seem all quite there. And I won't say that they aren't 'kin. Because its very possible. And I seriously won't say anything against anyone, but I think in certain clusters of 'kin, they are just taking things alittle too literal. Little things. And I can't really describe some of it. But maybe otherkin is something that is a bit more rarer than what everything thinks?
-shrug-
Thinking outloud.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:02 pm
babyXphantom Oh I get it smile Lets try not to get hot again. I do get it. But I suppose its what comes from my mind. Life is a battlefield, aye? That is all fine. And I suppose I did say I wasn't in it for the majority of it. Only caught the last peices of it. And I did say my first one was a bit corny, and kind of had some holes in it. But hey, its just an idea. wink Atleast we're thinking. Ahah. Yea. I'll admit I've thought in the past that I was 'special' because I talk to the fae or rather intune with them, and I'm not sure if that was directed toward me or not. But I wouldn't say I would be that type of kin just because I or anyone else says I have a connection with some sort of thing. Psyche, you all make sense. No one ever was killed for thinking, and participating. Tis all I'm doin. smile And thanks for the additional comments, Dorian. I think that stems from the fact that some otherkin that i've talked to don't seem all quite there. And I won't say that they aren't 'kin. Because its very possible. And I seriously won't say anything against anyone, but I think in certain clusters of 'kin, they are just taking things alittle too literal. Little things. And I can't really describe some of it. But maybe otherkin is something that is a bit more rarer than what everything thinks? -shrug- Thinking outloud. lol, dont worry .. that wasnt directed at you. . that was more directed at some otherkin in general. . I mean, I have met some otherkin who act like they are king s**t becuase they are otherkin, and the faes/dragons/gnomes like them, or this or that. .that act like pompus assholes and treat "humans" like garbage. . you dont even want to know how many have saiad something along the lines of "I will crush you/him/her/them". . some are rather full of themselves, and, some really arent even otherkin(by my energetic standards) and just say they are to look cool. . to be special. . and yah, soome do take it too literally. . and, no worries. . I mean, your #1 isnt that bad of a theory. . it makes some snese.. I think their is a filter in some way. . I just, dont think that it is so easy to evade this filter that any magical being could get through. . you know. . becuase, then you would think that most people would have memories, and it would be more common. . if the filter was so easy to get through, then it would be pointless to even have it. . someone that I used to be friends with that knew assloads about things said that on this planet, 96% of the population is energetically human, and only 4% are actual otherkin. .meaning that yah, in a classroom of 25 students, you would have 1 otherkin.. . which, it isnt like, insanely rare, but, a very small amount if he is correct. . (idk if he is correct, just putting this out their) now, where the truth lies isnt certain. . becuase, well, unless you have very good energetic senses and went arund taking samples and reading energy to see if their were traces of other species in people, well, you really cant say for sure what the numbers are. . I know that I have some energetic ability, but, it is posible that I could pass an otherkin on the street and not even notice if I wasnt paying attention to their energy. . I mean, in high school I was in a school of around 400, and I only found one person who had energy that wasnt "normal". . I found like, 2 others that feel different, but, I am not completely sure about them, since the difference isnt that great. .that doesnt mean that their werent others, the others may just have been weaker so I didnt really notice the difference since the difference wasnt so big. . (and I wasnt close to all 400 either, so I may have missed some becuase I dint really see them since they were in other grades and not in my lunch). . also, it could just be that many of them werent "awakened". . but, who really knows for sure. . so, I dont really know how prevalent otherkin are, it just seems like from what I have expereinced they aren't like, all over the place, but, they arent like, ubber rare either. .
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:46 pm
psychelapis lol, dont worry .. that wasnt directed at you. . that was more directed at some otherkin in general. . I mean, I have met some otherkin who act like they are king s**t becuase they are otherkin, and the faes/dragons/gnomes like them, or this or that. .that act like pompus assholes and treat "humans" like garbage. . you dont even want to know how many have saiad something along the lines of "I will crush you/him/her/them". . some are rather full of themselves, and, some really arent even otherkin(by my energetic standards) and just say they are to look cool. . to be special. . and yah, soome do take it too literally. . and, no worries. . I mean, your #1 isnt that bad of a theory. . it makes some snese.. I think their is a filter in some way. . I just, dont think that it is so easy to evade this filter that any magical being could get through. . you know. . becuase, then you would think that most people would have memories, and it would be more common. . if the filter was so easy to get through, then it would be pointless to even have it. . someone that I used to be friends with that knew assloads about things said that on this planet, 96% of the population is energetically human, and only 4% are actual otherkin. .meaning that yah, in a classroom of 25 students, you would have 1 otherkin.. . which, it isnt like, insanely rare, but, a very small amount if he is correct. . (idk if he is correct, just putting this out their) now, where the truth lies isnt certain. . becuase, well, unless you have very good energetic senses and went arund taking samples and reading energy to see if their were traces of other species in people, well, you really cant say for sure what the numbers are. . I know that I have some energetic ability, but, it is posible that I could pass an otherkin on the street and not even notice if I wasnt paying attention to their energy. . I mean, in high school I was in a school of around 400, and I only found one person who had energy that wasnt "normal". . I found like, 2 others that feel different, but, I am not completely sure about them, since the difference isnt that great. .that doesnt mean that their werent others, the others may just have been weaker so I didnt really notice the difference since the difference wasnt so big. . (and I wasnt close to all 400 either, so I may have missed some becuase I dint really see them since they were in other grades and not in my lunch). . also, it could just be that many of them werent "awakened". . but, who really knows for sure. . so, I dont really know how prevalent otherkin are, it just seems like from what I have expereinced they aren't like, all over the place, but, they arent like, ubber rare either. . Yup, exactly. There are real asses out there too. Who will find something out, or a trait about them that could mean something, and then flaunt it til its dead. Even after everyone abandons them. Or that they'll beg people to become what they are (these are usually idiots or think its some sort of game), even after several attempts to hammer it to their hands that they can't just 'become' something. And then there are those who just may be who they say they are and then have huge 'kin pride' and block out anything else. If they are Weres they start hating vampires, and in the worse senarios, humans as well. If they are dragons, they will definately hate humans. >_< sad peoples.
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:53 am
psychelapis I think many people hate the idea of otherkinism, becuase of all the ones running around acting like they should be worshipped. Hah... perhaps. I haven't ran into enough people with this belief in person to really have this association. Psychologically I know though that people who ascribe additional paranormal/supernatural 'specialness' to themselves are sometimes doing so as an outlet to make up for self-perceived inadequacies or a mode to pedestalize oneself; that goes for otherkin *or* any other psychical claim. Even if they are, though, does that really matter? If it's done for childish reasons, with age they'll grow out of it. If they don't it might mature into a beautiful form of spiritual belief. Sinesthera I don't believe that just humans have souls... I believe all creatures have souls... if they have will they have a "soul" And the only differnce between one soul and another is form and the way it interacts. To have a human soul in the realms means that when your soul was created it had this form... I don't believe many people actually have human souls... As in they were created with one. I believe most people adopt the form on earth because of lack of knowledge of outside forms. That's an interesting way of looking at it. I just can't place 'ownership' on souls any more easily than I can place 'ownership' on anything. The idea of a 'human' soul or 'animal' soul sounds as silly to me as saying there are human carbon atoms and animal carbon atoms. xd It is irrelevant if the carbon atom is part of a human or nonhuman animal. It's *still* just a carbon atom. True with the concept of souls it can be different. I have some doubts about the exience of souls in their conventional perception. At base I see soul as a synonym to 'essence.' If you're talking about otherkin from an 'essences' angle, then yes, you could very well have someone whose essence seems rather nonhuman by a given standard.
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