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Crystal8Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:15 pm


I can't say what kind of mental state I'd be in after, but there are some situations. I mean, if it were a village or the child, safe bet a village has many children, so one child or a bunch of children...unless that child is the messiah, seems like there's only one right choice there.
Or in cases like abortion where its the child or both mother and child. Not saying mom would successfully live with herself after, but the choice that is better at the time is the one that saves the most lives.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:34 pm


Ok, I'm a little confused. So.. The current topic is theft? Fair enough. I have a spiritual Mistress. She doesn't like thieves. However, there are always grey moral areas. I guess, if it was something she honestly wanted me to take. Yes, I would steal. However, the circumstances would have to be such that she absolutely wanted that object out of it's original owner's hands.

Here's an example. Like.. Say someone has a dangerous magical object that by possessing they endanger themselves and everyone around them. Now, this person doesn't keep track of the object out of ignorance. If I take the object and don't tell the person I am doing several people a favor.

But, neither of us like thievery very much so very case by case scenario. I guess the big question would be whether or not it served the greater good.

As for infanticide? ... Wtf? You guys really enjoy the tough discussions around here don't you? xD I like that! Um... I guess if the baby was infected with a disease that was super fatal, it couldn't be rescued and the body had to get burnt to a crisp to kill the disease. Yeah, ok. However, the life of a newborn? Very sacred. Don't kill.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:18 am


A new ethical topic has been brought up:

Prayers and magical or spiritual work, is it ever ok to do these sort of actions for some one who would never ask for it or who doesn't even believe in it, even if a loved one of their asked you to perform such a thing?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:34 am


Crystal8Phoenix
I can't say what kind of mental state I'd be in after, but there are some situations. I mean, if it were a village or the child, safe bet a village has many children, so one child or a bunch of children...unless that child is the messiah, seems like there's only one right choice there.
This was the exact point made in my moral and ethical dilemmas class. Many people were abhor by the thought of it even being a possibility. I personally thought one life or the lives of every one else and another child could be born. That being said its a position I never want to be in. Its just something that has happened historically.
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Or in cases like abortion where its the child or both mother and child. Not saying mom would successfully live with herself after, but the choice that is better at the time is the one that saves the most lives.
I have to agree. I prefer no sacrifice options myself. However sometimes there are no other options. You have to do what is right with the least amount of damage and lives lost.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:33 am


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Ok, I'm a little confused. So.. The current topic is theft? Fair enough. I have a spiritual Mistress. She doesn't like thieves. However, there are always grey moral areas. I guess, if it was something she honestly wanted me to take. Yes, I would steal. However, the circumstances would have to be such that she absolutely wanted that object out of it's original owner's hands.
Theft is something that has always been iffy. here is an odd fact-Libraries dont like to replace occult books because they are the most frequently stolen either by people who can't afford the books and decide to keep them or by people who can't stand that information being out there.

Crystal8Phoenix
Here's an example. Like.. Say someone has a dangerous magical object that by possessing they endanger themselves and everyone around them. Now, this person doesn't keep track of the object out of ignorance. If I take the object and don't tell the person I am doing several people a favor.
I like that idea. I also like the idea of taking something that doesn't belong to some one to begin with and trying to return it to it's natural owner.

Crystal8Phoenix
But, neither of us like thievery very much so very case by case scenario. I guess the big question would be whether or not it served the greater good.
What do you mean by the greater good?

Crystal8Phoenix
As for infanticide? ... Wtf? You guys really enjoy the tough discussions around here don't you?
Actually that came out due to a discussion I was having in my ethical and moral dilemma class. Its an issue that has been acted on and had historical precedence. I thought it would be interesting to think about and discuss here.
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xD I like that!
Then stick around. There will be plenty more to come.
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Um... I guess if the baby was infected with a disease that was super fatal, it couldn't be rescued and the body had to get burnt to a crisp to kill the disease. Yeah, ok. However, the life of a newborn? Very sacred. Don't kill.
Even if it meant that an entire tribe that was hiding was found and destroyed with a single cry from an infant?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:41 am


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A good way to really think about the situation is like this: Would you kill one child in order to keep your other children safe? What if there is another family hiding with you that has children? Would you kill your own child so that another family and their kids will be safe?
You worded that much better than I have. Its not an easy decision. If I knew I could have another child later on when things were safer I may be more open to it. Though right now I'd probably find ways of keeping my baby in a mostly sleep induced state waking them enough to feed and change/bathe them and then put them back to sleep.

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