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 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:25 pm
Amras Tasatir Or maybe that's humanity in general...? Yep. neutral
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:37 pm
Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus I don't care if it's a musical instrument or the TV, if you're being too loud then you're being too loud. I'm not going to let loud noise slide just because it's a musical instrument. It's bad enough that I have a neighbor that every morning and night it sounds like he throws s**t down his stairs when I'm pretty sure he's just running up and down them. Noise is noise and if it's a disturbance then it's a disturbance. You're proving my point. Thank you. And my point is that one should be considerate of their neighbors. I have no problem with people playing instruments but when something is too loud it is just too loud, instrument or not. There is a difference between playing an instrument or running up the stairs at 2pm and doing it at 11pm or 7am. It's the same principle behind city noise ordinances or quiet hour policies. I like to think that Americans aren't the only people that find excessive noise disturbing but I don't really know. I'm certainly not willing to put up with excessive noise just because "Oh, you're practicing a musical instrument; good for you!" Sorry. I hope you realize that you're just repeating yourself... Yes, I understand what you're saying, but I'm not talking about ridiculous hours of the day. I'm talking about people who just can't stand the noise. So if that's the case... why don't you live somewhere more peaceful? And yes, I know, be considerate of your neighbors. That goes for both sides, you know. Another thing many Americans tend to do (I'm not talking about all Americans, just some) is they get really really mad about something and scream their heart out, when it's easier to solve something by talking peacefully. Or maybe that's humanity in general...? I'm repeating myself and trying to explain my position for clarity. I can tolerate noise, but there is a (subjective) point where it becomes excessive. If I can't sleep because of it or something like that then I'd consider it excessive. I just used my neighbor as an example. He's never done anything I'd consider "excessive" but there are odd noises at odd hours that I think are unnecessary is all. Even so, it's not possible for me to move at this time even if I wanted to. Being respectful goes both ways and that's why I make an effort to be quiet in everything I do, but I've always been like that. I think that all people get really mad about things that could be resolved simply by communicating. That's not just an American thing. I think you're stereotyping and stereotypes are generalizations. It's like if I were to say that black people steal or Mexicans are lazy. It's obviously not true even if there are a few examples of those behaviors. By stereotyping Americans you've essentially done the same thing you're complaining about. Ok, there is a MAJOR misunderstanding here! I will stop arguing because the most important thing I said is being ignored. I am not talking about all Americans! Only some. I'm just stating that this takes place a lot in America, I am NOT targeting anyone. I'm not accusing you of anything, or anyone else, I'm just stating a general observation. This is the only point I wish to get across: that SOME people are like this. I am not stereotyping; just saying that it's worse in America than in some other places. And, if you were following my other debate, you saw that I admitted that I was specifically comparing to Mexico and Columbia, and other areas may be completely different. General observations, and through this I have gathered more. That was my goal. Not to point fingers.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:41 pm
Amras Tasatir Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus I don't care if it's a musical instrument or the TV, if you're being too loud then you're being too loud. I'm not going to let loud noise slide just because it's a musical instrument. It's bad enough that I have a neighbor that every morning and night it sounds like he throws s**t down his stairs when I'm pretty sure he's just running up and down them. Noise is noise and if it's a disturbance then it's a disturbance. You're proving my point. Thank you. And my point is that one should be considerate of their neighbors. I have no problem with people playing instruments but when something is too loud it is just too loud, instrument or not. There is a difference between playing an instrument or running up the stairs at 2pm and doing it at 11pm or 7am. It's the same principle behind city noise ordinances or quiet hour policies. I like to think that Americans aren't the only people that find excessive noise disturbing but I don't really know. I'm certainly not willing to put up with excessive noise just because "Oh, you're practicing a musical instrument; good for you!" Sorry. I hope you realize that you're just repeating yourself... Yes, I understand what you're saying, but I'm not talking about ridiculous hours of the day. I'm talking about people who just can't stand the noise. So if that's the case... why don't you live somewhere more peaceful? And yes, I know, be considerate of your neighbors. That goes for both sides, you know. Another thing many Americans tend to do (I'm not talking about all Americans, just some) is they get really really mad about something and scream their heart out, when it's easier to solve something by talking peacefully. Or maybe that's humanity in general...? I'm repeating myself and trying to explain my position for clarity. I can tolerate noise, but there is a (subjective) point where it becomes excessive. If I can't sleep because of it or something like that then I'd consider it excessive. I just used my neighbor as an example. He's never done anything I'd consider "excessive" but there are odd noises at odd hours that I think are unnecessary is all. Even so, it's not possible for me to move at this time even if I wanted to. Being respectful goes both ways and that's why I make an effort to be quiet in everything I do, but I've always been like that. I think that all people get really mad about things that could be resolved simply by communicating. That's not just an American thing. I think you're stereotyping and stereotypes are generalizations. It's like if I were to say that black people steal or Mexicans are lazy. It's obviously not true even if there are a few examples of those behaviors. By stereotyping Americans you've essentially done the same thing you're complaining about. Ok, there is a MAJOR misunderstanding here! I will stop arguing because the most important thing I said is being ignored. I am not talking about all Americans! Only some. I'm just stating that this takes place a lot in America, I am NOT targeting anyone. I'm not accusing you of anything, or anyone else, I'm just stating a general observation. This is the only point I wish to get across: that SOME people are like this. I am not stereotyping; just saying that it's worse in America than in some other places. And, if you were following my other debate, you saw that I admitted that I was specifically comparing to Mexico and Columbia, and other areas may be completely different. General observations, and through this I have gathered more. That was my goal. Not to point fingers. No worries. I misunderstood you somewhere along the line. I'm still not sure this is just an American thing. I think there are people like what you're describing all over the world because some people are just assholes. xd
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:28 pm
Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus Amras Tasatir Obscurus And my point is that one should be considerate of their neighbors. I have no problem with people playing instruments but when something is too loud it is just too loud, instrument or not. There is a difference between playing an instrument or running up the stairs at 2pm and doing it at 11pm or 7am. It's the same principle behind city noise ordinances or quiet hour policies. I like to think that Americans aren't the only people that find excessive noise disturbing but I don't really know. I'm certainly not willing to put up with excessive noise just because "Oh, you're practicing a musical instrument; good for you!" Sorry. I hope you realize that you're just repeating yourself... Yes, I understand what you're saying, but I'm not talking about ridiculous hours of the day. I'm talking about people who just can't stand the noise. So if that's the case... why don't you live somewhere more peaceful? And yes, I know, be considerate of your neighbors. That goes for both sides, you know. Another thing many Americans tend to do (I'm not talking about all Americans, just some) is they get really really mad about something and scream their heart out, when it's easier to solve something by talking peacefully. Or maybe that's humanity in general...? I'm repeating myself and trying to explain my position for clarity. I can tolerate noise, but there is a (subjective) point where it becomes excessive. If I can't sleep because of it or something like that then I'd consider it excessive. I just used my neighbor as an example. He's never done anything I'd consider "excessive" but there are odd noises at odd hours that I think are unnecessary is all. Even so, it's not possible for me to move at this time even if I wanted to. Being respectful goes both ways and that's why I make an effort to be quiet in everything I do, but I've always been like that. I think that all people get really mad about things that could be resolved simply by communicating. That's not just an American thing. I think you're stereotyping and stereotypes are generalizations. It's like if I were to say that black people steal or Mexicans are lazy. It's obviously not true even if there are a few examples of those behaviors. By stereotyping Americans you've essentially done the same thing you're complaining about. Ok, there is a MAJOR misunderstanding here! I will stop arguing because the most important thing I said is being ignored. I am not talking about all Americans! Only some. I'm just stating that this takes place a lot in America, I am NOT targeting anyone. I'm not accusing you of anything, or anyone else, I'm just stating a general observation. This is the only point I wish to get across: that SOME people are like this. I am not stereotyping; just saying that it's worse in America than in some other places. And, if you were following my other debate, you saw that I admitted that I was specifically comparing to Mexico and Columbia, and other areas may be completely different. General observations, and through this I have gathered more. That was my goal. Not to point fingers. No worries. I misunderstood you somewhere along the line. I'm still not sure this is just an American thing. I think there are people like what you're describing all over the world because some people are just assholes. xd You do have a point... lol
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