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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:49 pm


Jay Acumora
Because tech can be viewed as magic

and I know that but was in a rush to finish something else.


What timeline was that series suppose to take place? Or was it one of those books that never said?

Anyhow I'm going to sound like a broken record in saying this but it all differs with ones concept of steampunk. Fantasy-steampunk would be considered different than Victorian-steampunk.

I mean steampunking a magical fantasy like "Peter Pan" is more and easily accepted than adding magic to "Frankenstein".

The best way that I can describe this is in a Victorian-steampunk world the supernatural (monsters, vampires, werewolves) would be something of the norm because it's of a Gothic nature. Magic wouldn't because it doesn't really fit into the industrial setting. To some people adding magic into the mechanics is lazy writing unless that person is very good at it and can mix it in in a believable fashion. Such as with Hellboy II the magic added to the golden army made them indestructible and controlled by a crown. But Hellboy differs because it isn't a steampunk setting and the occult and magic is already the norm in a modern setting.

But other than that you're left to wonder why even add magic to it in the first place when it's a mechanical dominated setting. Airships to fly, trains, boats, and the like, what place does magic hold?

Anyhow once again the issue remains that Lili needs to be a bit more specific as to what is and isn't in this RP.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:10 pm


How bout we agree on some points and differ on others and agree to differ on those for without controversy nothing can actually change and become something new.

It was a modern timeline but it did do some explaining on how long they had the tech. Allso there was some odd magic like accelarated healing and mind manipulation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:16 pm


For a good example of steampunk, particularly what may be useful here, go check out Girl Genius. Now, a few things are moving into the realm of magic (I think, may just be supernatural), at least in that they currently are not explained.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:43 pm


The dine in the castle? Or something else?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:56 pm


Lady Bern
I'm taking it that there is still a war going on during this RP, though who is fighting?

And the rogue creations are more or less like the monsters of Frankenstein, creatures created through madness brought on sudden by sudden bouts of genius insights that pushed foresight and morals out of the way for the sake of science.

Is that to say that except for the creations that can be just about anything the main race is human or human in nature?

Edit: And you're not going to provide a basic profile skeleton?

The war is over, but there is still conflict. Small resistance groups or criminal organizations exist but once noticed are beaten down a bit excessively.

Creations - I don't think I could have described it any better. They can be rouge machines too, but that is likely more cyberpunk so I glazed it over a bit.

Any (preferably well-considered) species is playable.

No basic profiles, as I have noticed many members of the guild have vastly varying views on what is useful or necessary in them. Every person has a different style of writing and some characters might find some default prompts not applicable. I am also assuming that any poor-quality profiles will be kindly critiqued.

Jay Acumora
A well versed back story is needed for this to develop further. First, what happened in the first war? Did anyone stand up to oppose the empire after they conquered the continent? Many other role plays I have been to had a detailed descreption of what, how, and why it happened. You must also state if there is a current Resistence already made to try to right the Empire's wrongs or do we have to start off everything? What happened to those that were living in Bellabost? What about other towns and cities? There are many questions that need to be answered before all can be said and done.

The current empire was originally many small kingdoms, small wars would be fought occasionally, internal overthrows, and family-based monarchies...
The empire was one such kingdom that became quite a bit more ambitious than expected and before much could be done. Some animosity exists, especially where loyalties were particularly high or the fighting was particularly gruesome. Neither is the case for Bellabost.

This RP isn't about the war, but intended to be a slice-of-life with opportunity for adventure. It can go anywhere but the description I gave was perfectly fine for an RP that is not based around any resistance or war. The RP isn't a 5+ thread RP, one town and some opportunity for outlying regions is plenty. If you want a character from another city make up a name, a word or two to describe the town's feelings toward the empire, and a reason the character moved to Bellabost.

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By magic castle I was going for truely un-enterable, not a dare to explore, and aimed at town rumors of ghosts, the castle being alive, and other such reasons for fear and leaving it alone.
Magic also would, in theory, allow for a rare magician(tricks or real)[real being the types you mentioned] or something like a technopath(gifted with tech to a magical extent). They would, of course, be greatly feared, sought by the empire, or both; which would cause magic characters to be rare, difficult to play and a pain to interact with others.

Lady Bern
Anyhow the thing is that Lili hasn't told us which races are in the list of 'creatures' so this leaves us to decide on our own and that's a little confusing since everyone's perception of what steampunk is may vary heavily. ...I have a strong urge to watch the Bioshock Infinite trailer again.

The wild is rouge, soulless monsters inhabitable only by criminals, feared species or outcasts - all of which would have to be ruthless to survive. Even the non-monsters are monsters, or capable of such, in their own right.
I want species to be open for creation, such as I'm sure there is a war-heavy species used by the empire and feared by all non-military people, even within the empire. Animal hybrids and oddities would be lab experiments or voluntary alterations, including mechanical limbs and such. However, the RP is centered on a mostly human village and that is the encouraged species.

Raganui Minamoto
For a good example of steampunk, particularly what may be useful here, go check out Girl Genius. Now, a few things are moving into the realm of magic (I think, may just be supernatural), at least in that they currently are not explained.

Actually, you probably noticed I was thinking about the quite a bit. However, I muted a lot of things that would be main-plot-ish and tried to restrict it to just the world - before the machines started to not have any explanation as to how they ran.

Jay Acumora
Who here has read the artamis fowl series?

Me! But I had not considered it for this roleplay. The next book comes next Summer.
I don't think it would work much, as the magic folk there are more of a cyber punk and many aren't sturdy enough to survive surfacing without being enslaved for special abilities.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:41 am


hmm thats perfect character in mind now

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:57 am


Ah then you should have just referenced Girl Genius, that would have gotten rid of a lot of confusion and debates.

Though it's confusing that you say that a description of the appearances is suggested but then you submit a picture instead.

Anyhow I was going to do a Frankenstein monster married to the daughter of the doctor who created him working in the wilderness as a refugee opposing the city. But a friend just asked me to help out with his RP. I think I'll help him out for a little bit before jumping into this.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:00 pm


I was thinking of Girl Genius but I wanted it to be different. I suppose I didn't go about it the right way.

I was preparing for bed when I made the profile, I suppose that the appearance section was only imagined to exist.

Edit: Blast! My time to do so does not exist at this moment.

Edit: Alright, it is fixed. Is it descent without leaving something obvious out? Perhaps further conversation should be moved to the OOC thread?

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