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Esiris

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:07 pm


Does anyone have a good idea about how to tell plants in your garden from weeds when you're just starting out? sweatdrop
Or for that matter- some plants from others?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 8:31 pm


Ta Lu here on a mule:

If you're new to gardening then you would probably recognize the usual culprits of clovers and dandelions, wild onion is pretty easy to spot. sooner or later you'll start recognizing some brassica.

The best way to learn is to spend more time with your garden and look at all the plants that grow along side with your desired plants.

I know that cone-flowers look like weeds when they start growing out their first leaves, they look like dandelion, but they tend to grow in clumps so they'll start growing taller with many talks, with dark green tooth leaves.

I say if you don't know it and don't want to pull it out yet, I would recommend investing in a wildflower guide I think Newcomb is pretty swell. Google images is pretty awesome and have some identification guide out there. You can also type in general keywords such as "purple flower" or "purple flower weed" and see what comes up and ID your plant at a young or mature state.

Also a good indicator is if a plant is unusually aggressive early in the season. Meaning if a plant starts looking like its growing and maturing much faster than the plants around it, its likely either an invasive, or an undesired plant....example: The woody nightshade.

But this year I'm only pulling out brassica and onions,and some dandelions. I've decided to let some of the dandelions and plantain plants grow this year. apparently their leaves are edible, but since my dad fertilizes the yard, I'm just going to let them grow and use their leaves as feed for my tomatoes and other veggies.

Dandelions, are edible all around. and are beneficial to gardens too. They loosen up soil, and bring up hard to get nutrients deep in the soil up into their leaves, stem and flowers. I'm thinking about using their leafiness as greens for my compost and maybe dry them for either dandelion tea for my plants or crumbling them up for easier feed. And clovers are legumes so they're fixing nitrogen. and their leaves are mildly ornamental.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:10 pm


Thanks for the tips!
I'll be posting some pictures soon.
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:04 am



These are some good tips! I've been wondering similar things. I generally know if I want something or not in my garden, but as for the things that I don't want, I need a way of identifying them so I can tell if they're poisonous or not. You can never have too many edible green things when you have a tortoise and chickens. I haven't seen any dandelions here, which makes me sad. Those are Lazy's favorite.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:30 am


Vanilla eXee

These are some good tips! I've been wondering similar things. I generally know if I want something or not in my garden, but as for the things that I don't want, I need a way of identifying them so I can tell if they're poisonous or not. You can never have too many edible green things when you have a tortoise and chickens. I haven't seen any dandelions here, which makes me sad. Those are Lazy's favorite.
Puff dandelions are native to Europe and are one of the great annoyances to people who want flawless lawns, they're abundant as hell.

If you want some dandelions, you could easily go look for some in some less attended gardens, their rosettes are easy to find since they grow either very flat to the ground or have a few long leaves out at an angle.

You can leave a plot of soil empty and let nature take its course and wait for a seed to come by and germinate. Many a times dandelions don't really grow in areas that are very well established, since they're pioneers. So if bare compost and soil are left alone, likely a dandelion or brassica or some kind of onion will start popping up...or...some other new plant.

OR you can offer to weed your neighbor's yard, likely they'll have some if they're not the obsessive NO-WEED yard and garden.

Most of the time you don't even have to wait for the puff to fully form. You can easily pull off the yellow head and stem if its mature and been shining its awesome glory for some time, (make a pretty crown blaugh ) and put it in a dry place and it will start forming its seeds and it's fluff at that time, you can probably pull it apart and start your own dandelion salad bar plot, or your Tortoise or Chicken's all you can eat buffet.

Dandelions are compound flowers and very likely don't have an issue when it comes to self fertilization, also their flowers are attractive to bees and butterflies. Soooo.... yeah! More pollinators!

There alot of uses for dandelion, you can just google them! There's Dandelion syrup, jam, salad, quick garden ointment for itches

For poisonous plants pick up a guide or google them. Garden forums are pretty awesome just post your picture and someone is likely to answer them. I like to just google, since if its a weed or some kind of invasive all you have to do is wait for it to mature, and then google their leaf shape, flower color, or type ie vine bush, etc, their fruits.

If they're young, I usually I don't really care, and just yank them up. If in doubt, bag it and don't put it to your compost pile.

9_9 I haven't been gardening for a very long time, an on-off kind of girl, but my garden and yard has been neglected for 4 years since I went away to college. So coming back I'm looking up a lot of plants and I've always like those cotton balls. smile

Also an easy way of finding dandelions. Don't mow a part of your lawn for a while. Or don't weed a spot for a while.

My uncle use to have a rabbit and purposefully didn't mow the back corner of his yard so he'd just put the cage out and let his rabbit munch it all down. It was a fat rabbit. And that rabbit hated pellets.
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