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Lunar Beanz

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:34 pm


We have a freshman this year that we actually built up like "OMIGOSH, he can march and he can play like GOD, you're a freaking beast" and then his head got big. Now it's just "Shut up Tyler, we know."

Just don't do this. I don't care how awesome your freshman his, don't build up a kid like this. His/her ego will go sky high and you'll never be able to bring him/her down. He was small and cute (hasn't hit puberty yet) and I admit, has some mad skills, but his head could use some deflating. And that's partly our fault.

Anyway, I was never a freshman like this. But I know a fair few people who are and they make themselves look ridiculous.

Edit: I know he's better at playing than I am. (I'm a Junior) He has two director parents and he's been around music his entire life. I'm happy to give up a few solos for him, but I don't need the bragging.
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:38 pm


Actually, it seems to be the other way around with our band. In our band, the seniors have larger egos. One of them actually thinks that since I was freshmen (Junior now), I knew absolutely nothing about music. Not like I was in all county and all state for a couple years or anything.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:54 pm


At our school we have three orchestras. We have the Freshman orchestra, which includes freshmen and some sophomores, Symphonic Orchestra which is for grades 10-12, and Chamber Orchestra, which is for also for 10-12 but for stronger players. I'm in Symphonic and Chamber. I'm only a sophomore but there's one freshman girl I don't particularly like. She is in Symphonic and always gives everyone dirty looks when she messes up, and she gets pissed off if we try to help her. And for concerts, our conductor likes to have freshmen in the back. Since I'm a sophomore and my stand partner is a senior, we sit near the middle. But since our conductor didn't make an official seating chart, the freshman decided it was okay for her to take our seats the very night of the concert, even though she never sat there for rehearsal. So we ended up in the very back, right by the percussion. And we played 1812 Overture by Tchaikovsky, so we had the cannon blasts right in our ears because of her. Not cool. not cool at all >:[
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:37 am


I'm one of only two trombones. I'm now a senior, she's now a sophomore. I couldn't go a day during last years show without hearing "Awwwh, I'm so used to being 1st trombone! These notes are too low (all in the staff) and I never used to march while I played. I'm much better than this (she wasn't) and if I didn't have to friggin' march then I'd be the best out here!" and a bunch of bitching and whining afterward. Thankfully, I wasn't the section leader, the senior trombone at the time was, so I didn't have to deal with it. He, unfortunately, was very passive, so he never put her in her place. Now, I'm the section leader, and come July, I have to deal with her ever-growing ego and attitude. I'm going to try to kick her down a notch and ell her how it is if she starts with that again, but she doesn't take me seriously at all.I don't even want to be section leader, but the senior baritone made it quite clear that she wasn't going to do it, leaving just me to oversee the newbies and yell at people and train people and it's all just too much ;n;

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bandgeekus shorticus

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:05 pm


Well lets get this part over with. I am not a nice person. Plain and simple. You tick me off, well, paybacks a b***h. We have a freshman trumpet who recently got a 1990s Bach Stradivarius 72 (I played it before he did, its beautiful, bandgeekus shorticus wants it.....), and ever since that kid has been cockier then my rival in the section. At least she knows how to play. This kid has been a total a** to the rest of the section in concert band. I never realized it until we had combined rehearsal (I'm in wind ensemble/honors band). Well this kid was sitting there showing off and being nasty to the other freshman (who I adore) in front of me. I have no tolerance for that crap, so I sat RIGHT next to him, and blatantly handed him 3rd trumpet instead of the 2nd he was expecting. Just me sitting next to him was enough to scare him. I am nice to my section, but I command respect, and they give it to me. 40 minutes later, he was whipped into shape. He will turn out to be a good player, but he needs to realize that he is a freshman, and that in marching band especially you go up the ranks when you are respectful and have the skill level to match.

Thats just my little cocky underclassman story. My rival is cocky too, but I beat her in every single audition this year (Wind Ensemble, Jazz Ensemble, and County Band mwahahaha twisted ). Anyway I say teach the kids a lesson. Show them whose boss, and that in order to "become boss", they need to be respectful, knowledgeable (remind them that this only comes with time in the organization), and humble. I play trumpet, its the section with the biggest ego next to the snare line. If I can get the cocky kids to realize there proper place, you can too. If you need any help, gimme a call ill get them lol.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:07 pm


Oh, Lordy. The entire 2011 class in my band was like this- even as freshmen. They treated band like their breeding ground for insane fun and drama at inconvenient times. Unfortunately, nearly all of them were leadership. (Thank goodness they're gone....)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:12 pm


bandgeekus shorticus


My rival is cocky too, but I beat her in every single audition this year (Wind Ensemble, Jazz Ensemble, and County Band mwahahaha twisted ).


I love it when that happens! As a sophomore, two girls in my section tried to teach me how to play (even though I knew how) and treated me like a four-year-old. The looks on their faces when I blew them out of the water that year at chair placement auditions? Priceless.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:41 pm


I have to say, I was definitely one of those kids, but the difference was everyone liked me and I was drum major my freshman year.. So.. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:41 am


We have some really annoying freshman this year.

We have a bunch of echo cheers at football games where a small group of 2-6 people will call out something, and the band echoes something. ("When I sy green, you say gold", "Where my diamonds at? (right here right here!)", etc)
Well, these cheers are strictly(well, more of traditionally) started by seniors and the occasional junior.
These two freshman would start them about 5 times a game. And nobody could do anyhtign about it, ebcause we have a rule that if one person cheers, we all cheer.

Better yet, one of those two freshman was an alternate clarinet player who I shared a spot with(we gained a lot of members after the drill ws written, so we didnt have enough spots for everone and just had those new members "shadow" another member, so they had the chance to march. Usually, they are supposed to swicth off every game and festival, but she didnt know it so I always got to march) First off; she was a shadow, which kinda puts you a bit lower, especially if you had never marched a show before. Why did she not know the spot? She would show up to 1 or 2 of our 4 or 5 rehearsals a week, and/or would sit out saying she was 'sick' or 'injured'. Also, when she would show up and actually march, she would be telling me, a senior, and even oru sl what to do.
If you aren't going to show up tto rehearsals, you are a freshman, and you are going to boss people around, you don't deserve to be in the place of seniors. For our band, going up and doing those cheers is an honor reserved for upperclassman. We had to wait until now tot do them, and her and the other freshman kept doing it.
After she became ineligible(nobody is upset about her ineligibility, at least not in the claris) she would sneak over to the band space, because ineligibles are only allowed to go to the games if they pay and they cant sit with the band, and she would do the cheers anyway.

We also used to have an order tog ettign on the bus. We would go seniors, juniors, sophomores then freshman, so that seniors could get the best seats. Well, that kinda ended when we got a new bd. She doesnt do that anymore. Well, the back of the bus was also the senior section. Now, its the annoying freshman section, because they all push tot he front of the group and charge back there, only to yell and scream as loud as they can. (I nearly killed a pair last night for annoying the bus driver to change the radio station, when the radio wsnt even on. Plus i ahd a splitting headache.)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:40 pm


I just want to say the the people in our band, class 2013 and below (2012, 2011 etc.) are the most talented, dedicated, and fun people I have ever met. Sure there are a few bad-apples but noone likes them and half got kicked out. Now, I don't know what happened to years 2014 and above, but they must not have they're brains screwed on straight. The are the most disrespectful, arrogant (when they don't even have enough talent to be arrogant), untalented, and annying people I have ever met. The freshmen come in acting like they're all big and bad: they can't even play their concert b-flat scale in quarter notes!! Thats the first thing they teach us!! We start marching band in the summer and a freshman trumpet player comes in acting like he runs the section (unfortunately the senior section leader couldn't do marching band due to time issues or he'd have ripped him a new a**-hole) I'm a junior and the best flute player. I'm not saying I'm perfect-- I make mistakes, but not that often. I make one little mistake and that trumpet player is on my a** telling me that I need to learn how to play, and I'm marching all wrong. b***h, at least I know where my sets are!! We had to re-start literally 10 times just for him because he went to the complete wrong set everytime. The drum-major (who is also a trumpet player) eventually just stopped trying to be nice to him and just started cussing him out whenever he started to talk. When concert band started up, he was bragging that he was going to get 1st chair and be the best trumpet. No, no, no, no, honey child. And he starts saying s**t about how Im gonna be dead last chair. Yea, right. Whatever. So, chair auditions come around and who gets 1st chair? I DO! I DO! Who gets 7th chair out of 10? The dumb a** trumpet player. And the guy who was supposed to be section leader ended up cussing him out when he tried to tell the leader how to play a note. The guy stopped talking s**t after that.

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poeticmelodies

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:42 pm


This happens in our school ALL the time. Literally, in every band, in every choir, in every orchestra, every musical group, there's always egos and underclassmen and upperclassmen fighting for spots and first chairs and crap.
Now, as a freshman, I beat out a junior for first chair. It was just the two of us, so it wasn't a big deal. We play bass clarinet, it makes no difference who sits first or second. But in some other sections, there were issues. My friend, who plays clarinet, got second chair over four or five seniors and a few juniors. The senior first chair was soooo rude to her, refused to give her any of the solos and basically made her his b***h. It was horrible to watch. I wanted to punch him in the face. I got that he was a senior, but he shouldn't have been so rude. Also, my friend who plays french horn got first as a freshman, and the sophmore who got second was so infuriated with her, but he really isn't that great... ><
Now, again, my sophmore year I beat out two seniors. Again, no big deal. But the situation with the french horns continued, and the band director kept giving the solos to the second chair, even though my friend is so much better than him (she's been asked to play in numerous orchestras and chamber groups, even though we're only 16). She would get so upset, and it sucked. In marching band last year, there was an eighth grader in my section who absolutely sucked. But he would boss everyone around and it drove me insane. Lisa, the section leader, put him in his place though.
Now this year, nothing has really happened. There hasn't been much ego (which is weird) and it's odd. But I'm cool with that! :] In my school, the ego and seniority go both ways. And it sucks. It tears sections apart and makes them worse. I wish it would stop... xP
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:24 pm


So, being cool and everything in western Pennsylvania our football team was still playing in December, thus, we were too. Apparently my more "delicate" freshman thought it was just too cold to put their fingers on their cold saxophones and weren't playing. I didn't notice because I and another senior were talking to the drum major about playing a certain song next. Our band director comes over and screams for the freshman to play(he can get quite agitated.) He then shouts at the section leaders for not telling our freshman they need to play(though, honestly, I don't think they really play much even when their instruments are to their lips). So my friend and I go back to our section to make sure our freshmen are playing and this one freshman girl says to us, "You guys are the section leaders. It's your fault. He even said so. You guys really should keep a better eye on the people in our section."

I was speechless for a minute, then exploded into a tirade on how she was more than capable of playing her own darned instrument herself without being told. I believe I also mentioned something about questioning her ability to know when to use the bathroom all by herself too, but if I put my exact words online, it would have to be censored.

Honestly, this generation is awful. Where did the respect go? I remember revering my seniors and section leaders so much I was afraid to even really talk to them.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:48 am


GAH.

The senior rookie member who thinks even though he just joined the band for this ONE YEAR thinks he can play center snare when there's 12 others waiting for a spot just to play the darn thing.

But four years ago I was that freshman who beat out the other 12 flutes for first chair. I've been on the receiving end of those nasty looks. I turned down picc though.

Even as a senior, that thing is the devil.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:54 pm


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Upperclassman this year(which are the seniors) get top priority since they won't be here next year and it gets me mad since our band director gives them all the solos and respect.I mean in my section our Junior Kennith has all solos and first priority over our section just because his dad is a music director,he's in Advance Theater and Advance Choir.That is the only reason he gets so much more respect in my whole section,we have a Senior as well but Kennith still has more priority because of his status.

Also,you're wrong.I don't fight with the upperclassmen 'cause i think their better then me;it's the opposite. I fight with them because they have such a big ego when they walk in the door,suck up to the director,and our drum majors.That's what gets me mad.I think my playing is average and i need more work,i'm not that conceded that i would put myself as the best.

Josh.He's a freshmen in my section.He's very good and practices everyday and when were not playing he still looks over his music and marks his paper for fingerings and what not.He has my respect and not my respect.I don't him because he's Kennith's favorite and by that i mean he gets all the attention of him and gets more help then me or anyone else in my section.Now,he has my respect because he acts professional during practice and can calm down the section when it gets to loud.

Now we have my headache.Eddy a Freshman and Saxophone player.He is the most annoying child/boy i ever wanted to beat with my instrument.He takes 30 minutes just to clean his reed and then talks the whole period and makes jokes.Everyone tells him to shut(including me) and even the director gets mad at him.He has the biggest ego for a Freshmen i ever seen.

((Sorry for my rant))

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