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 Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:50 pm
could you help me cause when i witness to my friends who are unbelievers i sometimes dont know how to answer some questions they ask me and it makes me feel that i let christ down. HELP!
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:17 pm
READ. Read scriptures and be patient with them. Just study and if you have any questions talk to a bishop or something. And Pray. God is always there to help you.
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:17 pm
Well, first of all, what are some of the questions you have trouble answering?
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:20 am
well they always ask me. " do you have proof that god exist. or how do you know the devil is real. stuff like that they always need proof of something.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:24 am
You could ask them which makes more sense:
Believing God created the universe
or
that a scientific theory that defies the laws of the science that "supports" is what created the universe.
I'm talking about Spontaneous Generation. People used to think that maggots came from raw meat. That living things can come from non living things. This was proven false.
Also, the chances that the right amino acids would mix to create life in a giant primordial ooze are mathematically impossible. If you want a reference for this, google "evolution mathematically impossible" and you should find a few.
Evolution is supposed to be a scientific answer to our origins, but, as I mentioned, it goes against the very laws of science, as does God.
Don't let them tell you Evolution is a fact. It only has some support but is no less a theory than Creation. They probably won't accept the Bible as a truth so you will have to try natural revelation.
Micro evolution is real, we see that in Creation. How else would we get usch variety within species. Long hair, short hair, short legs, long legs, etc.
When I say evolution with a capital "E" I mean macro evolution.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:06 am
HolyP8ntr You could ask them which makes more sense: Believing God created the universe or that a scientific theory that defies the laws of the science that "supports" is what created the universe. I'm talking about Spontaneous Generation. People used to think that maggots came from raw meat. That living things can come from non living things. This was proven false. Also, the chances that the right amino acids would mix to create life in a giant primordial ooze are mathematically impossible. If you want a reference for this, google "evolution mathematically impossible" and you should find a few. Evolution is supposed to be a scientific answer to our origins, but, as I mentioned, it goes against the very laws of science, as does God. Don't let them tell you Evolution is a fact. It only has some support but is no less a theory than Creation. They probably won't accept the Bible as a truth so you will have to try natural revelation. Micro evolution is real, we see that in Creation. How else would we get usch variety within species. Long hair, short hair, short legs, long legs, etc. When I say evolution with a capital "E" I mean macro evolution. lol.. you can google anything... rofl
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:17 am
OK, let us clear a few things up before directing you to the debate section.
Firstly, evolution is a solid scientific theory. Creationism has no science behind it. If you want the absolute proof for that, ask for it in the debate areas.
Secondly, there is no empirical difference between macro and micro evolution. At best they are arbitary distinctions, like species lines. In the worst case, they are lines drawn to deliberately misslead people.
Thirdly, spontainous generation has been disproven for a long, long time now. Abiogensis, however, is totaly different. That is the process by which life can develop from non-living material, not spontainously, but gradualy through natural processes. Again, a subject for the debate area.
Fourthly, even if this is true, it is no proof for the Christian God. Even if you pursuade them that there is some inteligent force, you still have the question of which one. There are a lot to choose from.
The only way you could 'prove' to someone that Christianity is right is by pursuading someone that the resurection actualy happened. That is the one event that Christiandom centers around. It is also the main one that you have to take on faith.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:36 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:31 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:34 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ae1db0976d0.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/VernAndrews/Creation01.html
http://www.flusteredsquirrel.com/media/academics/creationvsevolution.pdf#search='creation evolution proven wrong neanderthals' ((you need acrobat reader for this one))
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:19 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:36 pm
Try this. Ask them what they thinks happens to someone when they die.
Ask them if they think they are a good person. They will more than likely say "yes" to this.
If they do, ask them if they've ever lied. They might try to reason it to half lies or white lies or just fibs, but those are just as much a lie as telling your parents you were home before curfew when you were really 30 minutes late (or any example). Just get them to realize and admit that a lie is a lie no matter how little they think it was.
Next, ask them if they've ever stolen anything? It can be as small as a pen from a friend or a $100 off someone's desk or whatever. If they say they've never stolen anything, ask them why you should believe them? After all, they just admitted to being a liar.
Matthew 5:28 ESV "But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. "
Give them this verse then ask them if they've ever lusted. I'm sure they will answer "yes" to this one.
Now, after all that's done, by your friends' own mouths, they have admitted to being a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart. This sure doesn't sound like a good person to me. I think most of you would agree.
Here's where you can move towards Christ. Talk about how he came and lived a perfect life in order to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins, die, and rise again thus conquering death. It is by repenting and accepting Christ we can being "good" people. Christ's blood washes our sins clean. This doesn't mean we can continue living as we did before just because we have a sacrifice in our place. That isn't true repentance. It doesn't mean that we will be perfect from now on either. Christians are still human and daily need to remember and repent of their sins.
Don't promise them some happy plan God has for their life because even the Bible promises us that our lives will be hard. If someone comes to Christ having been promised everlasting joy for the rest of their life and comes up against a spot of trouble or depression, they're going to turn away from God.
They need to know that Hell is real and if they continue living the lives they do, void of Christ and God, they will end up there. God cannot be bribed with good works. They mean nothing to Him. The only worthy sacrifice for our sins is a life that was perfect, always keeping the 10 Commandments. Christ did that and it made him the only acceptable sacrifice for our sins. No other person has ever lived a perfect life.
Work with this part the best you can so you can present it the best you can.
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:07 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:14 pm
Cradoc To prove this you must first define science which plenty of scientist and philosophers have debated for centuries as have people tried to totally define metaphysics you cannot truly define science you can get close though but so many people redefine thongs these days....ugh, that and you'll have to prove why your definition should be accepted get a large majority to accept it which will be a problem since the biggest YEC/CDC groups out there are Baptist and Southern Baptist alone are 1.5 million alone in the U.S. thus you already have a weak hold on the definition, science is a branch of philosophy and that is the only thing that can be stated as a historical fact. Now bug off bashing my noobs or you'll realy get the rough side of my tounge..... stressed I am not bashing. I am just discouraging the passing on of false information to the best of my ability. Trust me, if I can put down these arguments, or counter the sources, they will not cut the ice when you get out into the main debates. There are serious sharks out there. I am just a bit player. The only thing I really need to define is what meanings of the word science I am using. In this case, it is; 1. The application of the scientific method in order to gain understanding of natural phenominon. 2. The results of 1.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:13 am
If you argue someone into Christianity, they are just as likely to be argued out of it by a better argument.
You have to attack their conscience, not their intellect.
God gave us a conscience as a form of natural revelation.
We know murder is wrong, stealing is wrong, And so on.
Yes, it can be tampered/dulled/seared/etc. but inheritly, we know what right and wrong.
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