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 Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:40 pm
Holypimp It is slightly related to actual witchcraft, along with the interviews I found in which she states to be a christian I found headlines and newspaper articles saying that satanic sects (such as wicca) are fighting to keep harry potter in public schools, if it has nothing to do with actual witchcraft then why would people that practice witchcraft fight so hard to keep these books in public and private schools? Also J.K. Rowling once said that she would have Harry Potter lose his virginity in one of the books. This although having nothing to do with witchcraft, has a underlying message that sex outside the security of marriage is ok, regardless of what you believe, as a christian you know that the Bible says that this is not ok....And as far as the revenge I was talking about earlier, when harry potter returned home after his first year at hogwarts he made life miserable for the "muggle" family he was living with, because they made life miserable for him before he found out what he was....Im not trying to say these books are pure evil and definatally should not be read, Im just saying be careful what you read -God Bless While I don't agree that certain groups advocating a book or movie is what defines the meaning of that book or movie, I agree that you should be careful what you read. That's the kind of message your friends need to hear. smile ~Gilwen
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:56 pm
I think people should avoid reading Harry Potter because it's badly written. razz I haven't read more than the first half of the first book. I didn't enjoy it in the slightest... definitely not my style so I guess I'm not one to judge. However I do find it interesting that you say the author is a practicing wiccan. If the book talks about getting revenge and such (I wouldn't know sweatdrop ) that goes against wiccan principles as well.
I had a friend try to convince me not to see a certain movie because it contained references to witchcraft. (he's a strong Christian) However, he was an avid harry potter reader. When I pointed this out to him, he completely disagreed with me. Personally in that sense I think harry potter is disgustingly powerful. It's mainstream and available to the masses unlike other books/movies that have come before it. The fact that so many people have conformed to enjoying these same books frightens me more than the contents.
I think you did the right thing in telling them to be careful as long as you didn't try to force them to stop reading the books. All you did was offer advice. People should always be careful when reading books/viewing media. I suggest you drop the subject with your friends. I'm sure they'll come around and start speaking with you again.Holypimp Also J.K. Rowling once said that she would have Harry Potter lose his virginity in one of the books. This although having nothing to do with witchcraft, has a underlying message that sex outside the security of marriage is ok, regardless of what you believe, as a christian you know that the Bible says that this is not ok.
what a horrible woman. Regardless of Christian principles or not, doesn't she realize that half of her readers barely know what sex even is?! I know the British are more liberal in their media than those in North America (I read alot of novels from both razz ) but my gosh! These are children who are going to read about their hero having sex outside of marriage.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:11 pm
This is all that I was trying to say to my friends that they should be careful what they read. Ive gotten into arguments many times on the types of things that as christians we should and should not do. For example one time they argued that we should read the satanic bible for references...and they got mad at me for saying that we shouldnt read other religions "holy books" because it might suck us in. All I ever meant to say to them is to be careful what we read and what we watch and what we do, because regardless of what we do it is absorbed and it may have some sort of impact on our lives, when I made this statement they took it to meaning that because they read the books I believed they were going to become witches. Quote: To say Harry Potter is about witchcraft is like saying the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz or the White Witch from Narnia are so accurate As far as drawing similarites to C.S. Lewis' White Witch with the Witches and Wizards of the harry potter books, there is are key differences. 1st The Witches and Wizards of the harry potter books are displayed as good characters possessing super natural powers. The White Witch of C.S. Lewis' books is displayed as witches are in the bible as evil characters. 2nd. All of the "muggles" (or normal persons without magic) are looked down upon in the harry potter books. While in the C.S. Lewis books the 4 childeren are the only ones that can end the white witches terror. 3rd. In C.S. Lewis' writing you can see that he is a Christian because he shows that in the end Witches will not be able to stand up to Christ (displayed as Aslan in the books). While in the harry potter books if J.K. Rowling is in fact a christian it dosnt reflect much in her writing, it shows that Witchcraft and Wizadry is a good thing and in the end will triumph. If harry potter were just another book written in some other world with magic and not Witches and Wizards I would have not problem with it. But these books are written so that you see everything in the real world where people like you and me with no supernatural power are looked down upon. As far as the wizard of oz goes....some people could say the good witch displays wicca because people who practice wicca consider themselves white witches. But you also see in this movie that the wicked witches of the west and east both get killed, so like the bible suggests in the end Witches and Wizards will not triumph but be cast into hell like the rest of the people who believe satans lies. if any one wishes to continue this debate please PM me so I dont have to take away from people still needing advise on more serious issues. Thank you. -God Bless
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:21 pm
angelgotspiked I think people should avoid reading Harry Potter because it's badly written. razz I haven't read more than the first half of the first book. I didn't enjoy it in the slightest... definitely not my style so I guess I'm not one to judge. However I do find it interesting that you say the author is a practicing wiccan. If the book talks about getting revenge and such (I wouldn't know sweatdrop ) that goes against wiccan principles as well.
I had a friend try to convince me not to see a certain movie because it contained references to witchcraft. (he's a strong Christian) However, he was an avid harry potter reader. When I pointed this out to him, he completely disagreed with me. Personally in that sense I think harry potter is disgustingly powerful. It's mainstream and available to the masses unlike other books/movies that have come before it. The fact that so many people have conformed to enjoying these same books frightens me more than the contents.
I think you did the right thing in telling them to be careful as long as you didn't try to force them to stop reading the books. All you did was offer advice. People should always be careful when reading books/viewing media. I suggest you drop the subject with your friends. I'm sure they'll come around and start speaking with you again.Holypimp Also J.K. Rowling once said that she would have Harry Potter lose his virginity in one of the books. This although having nothing to do with witchcraft, has a underlying message that sex outside the security of marriage is ok, regardless of what you believe, as a christian you know that the Bible says that this is not ok.
what a horrible woman. Regardless of Christian principles or not, doesn't she realize that half of her readers barely know what sex even is?! I know the British are more liberal in their media than those in North America (I read alot of novels from both razz ) but my gosh! These are children who are going to read about their hero having sex outside of marriage. Like I said I found other interviews saying that she is in fact a christian. The interview that I saw where she stated she was a wicca was on Oprah, and I guess afterward she stated that she wasnt a wicca but in fact a christian so im kinda confused on the subject of what she is. I agree with everything you just said about the harry potter books, christians will make one statement about not seeing something because it has witchcraft in it but will continue to read these books not realizing that there previous statement is a little hypocritical. As far as as Harry Potter having sex, im just relaying a message that was relayed to me Im not 100% sure she will ever have Harry ever have sex, and if she does I think that she will lose a lot of readers. On top of that she is having one of the main characters die, so all those poor kids get to read about one of their favorite characters dying in some overly dramatic way. (She'll probabally lose a lot of readers on this to). My main problems with these books is that christians and non christians alike try to draw parallels between these books and C.S. Lewis' books and J.R.R Tolkeins books. These two authors are both christians and this reflects in their writing while J.K. Rowling claims to be a christian until I see something in her writing not an interview that suggest she is I will disagree. Also as far as you not being able to read the books, maybe it was God's way of keeping you away from these books so I say cudos biggrin -God Bless
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:38 pm
Holypimp Like I said I found other interviews saying that she is in fact a christian. The interview that I saw where she stated she was a wicca was on Oprah, and I guess afterward she stated that she wasnt a wicca but in fact a christian so im kinda confused on the subject of what she is. Quote: My main problems with these books is that christians and non christians alike try to draw parallels between these books and C.S. Lewis' books and J.R.R Tolkeins books. These two authors are both christians and this reflects in their writing while J.K. Rowling claims to be a christian until I see something in her writing not an interview that suggest she is I will disagree. Quote: Also as far as you not being able to read the books, maybe it was God's way of keeping you away from these books so I say cudos biggrin
oh and something I forgot to mention in my last post:
I find it so strange that harry potter seems to transcend age. I work in a library and besides the Lord of the Rings, it is the most versatile set of books we have there... I have to shelve it in childrens fiction, young adults fiction, adult general fiction, adult adventure fiction and adult science fiction. It seems so strange to me.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:27 am
Holypimp if any one wishes to continue this debate please PM me so I dont have to take away from people still needing advise on more serious issues. Thank you. -God Bless If the OP needs no further advice, I'm going to lock this topic. I think there's a similar one in the Debate forum if anyone wants to check it out. If there isn't, go ahead and make one. smile ~Gilwen
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