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Nespin Fernagon Vice Captain
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 Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:00 am
AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm I know that, but Extremists WILL use that mosque, (if it got/will be built) it's like rubbing it in crying Well... yes...but fanatical Christians will use any church in the country, crazy scientologists will use any, uh, whatever-you-call-their-gathering-places-anyways... It just seems like if we follow that to it's logical conclusion, every gathering place of any kind should be closed down, because crazies can use it. i don't mind if it was built ELSEWHERE, but it's just so close to the site of greatest tragedy of last decade D: it's like saying ohai we owned you american n00bs ahahhaha!!11onenoneone. for all we know, what if Extremists PLANNED for that mosque to be built there? Two comments. One - the greatest tragedy of the last decade? Okay, it was big and bad, I'll grant you that. But are you sure about that? I'm sure some of the natural disasters we've had since then claimed far more lifes. Two: If they did plan for it to be built there...so what? It's not like they were trying to build a missile silo. It honestly could have been a symbol of peace and understanding if completed...instead of becoming this thing of hatred and fear that it's been turned into. 1. i mean non-natural tragedy, i think Katrina was more devastating, but we can't control the weather...... yet.2. i hope for the latter, but who knows, I'm just really really scared cuz I have 5 relatives living in New York, and I lost a few in 9/11 D: Katrina was actually a bit less devastating in terms of pure deaths, although I'm not sure about economic damage. However if you want non-natural... the war in Iraq (Which, I remind you, has nothing at all to do with the people that rammed the towers) has killed...well, the numbers conflict. But the lowest estimate that I see is 109 000. Well over 20 times the number killed by 9/11. I wonder if any christian churches have been built there?
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:03 am
AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm I know that, but Extremists WILL use that mosque, (if it got/will be built) it's like rubbing it in crying Well... yes...but fanatical Christians will use any church in the country, crazy scientologists will use any, uh, whatever-you-call-their-gathering-places-anyways... It just seems like if we follow that to it's logical conclusion, every gathering place of any kind should be closed down, because crazies can use it. i don't mind if it was built ELSEWHERE, but it's just so close to the site of greatest tragedy of last decade D: it's like saying ohai we owned you american n00bs ahahhaha!!11onenoneone. for all we know, what if Extremists PLANNED for that mosque to be built there? Two comments. One - the greatest tragedy of the last decade? Okay, it was big and bad, I'll grant you that. But are you sure about that? I'm sure some of the natural disasters we've had since then claimed far more lifes. Two: If they did plan for it to be built there...so what? It's not like they were trying to build a missile silo. It honestly could have been a symbol of peace and understanding if completed...instead of becoming this thing of hatred and fear that it's been turned into. 1. i mean non-natural tragedy, i think Katrina was more devastating, but we can't control the weather...... yet.2. i hope for the latter, but who knows, I'm just really really scared cuz I have 5 relatives living in New York, and I lost a few in 9/11 D: Uh. . . Genocide in Darfur, anyone? Rwanda?
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:10 am
Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm I know that, but Extremists WILL use that mosque, (if it got/will be built) it's like rubbing it in crying Well... yes...but fanatical Christians will use any church in the country, crazy scientologists will use any, uh, whatever-you-call-their-gathering-places-anyways... It just seems like if we follow that to it's logical conclusion, every gathering place of any kind should be closed down, because crazies can use it. i don't mind if it was built ELSEWHERE, but it's just so close to the site of greatest tragedy of last decade D: it's like saying ohai we owned you american n00bs ahahhaha!!11onenoneone. for all we know, what if Extremists PLANNED for that mosque to be built there? Two comments. One - the greatest tragedy of the last decade? Okay, it was big and bad, I'll grant you that. But are you sure about that? I'm sure some of the natural disasters we've had since then claimed far more lifes. Two: If they did plan for it to be built there...so what? It's not like they were trying to build a missile silo. It honestly could have been a symbol of peace and understanding if completed...instead of becoming this thing of hatred and fear that it's been turned into. 1. i mean non-natural tragedy, i think Katrina was more devastating, but we can't control the weather...... yet.2. i hope for the latter, but who knows, I'm just really really scared cuz I have 5 relatives living in New York, and I lost a few in 9/11 D: Katrina was actually a bit less devastating in terms of pure deaths, although I'm not sure about economic damage. However if you want non-natural... the war in Iraq (Which, I remind you, has nothing at all to do with the people that rammed the towers) has killed...well, the numbers conflict. But the lowest estimate that I see is 109 000. Well over 20 times the number killed by 9/11. I wonder if any christian churches have been built there? harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:15 am
AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis.
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Nespin Fernagon Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:17 am
. . . . I think this might just belong in the SD. Mods' choice :3
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:20 am
cave_dweller_candy . . . . I think this might just belong in the SD. Mods' choice :3 Yeah, sure. xD Movin.
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Nespin Fernagon Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:20 am
Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis. i wasn't so much opposed to it as I am was not really wanting it to be put THERE pretty scared yeah, it's not comforting knowing the vehicle your traveling in may blow up at anytime. not so much sweatdrop but it has stopped numerous attacks.
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:26 am
AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis. i wasn't so much opposed to it as I am was not really wanting it to be put THERE pretty scared yeah, it's not comforting knowing the vehicle your traveling in may blow up at anytime. not so much sweatdrop but it has stopped numerous attacks. But the vehicle you're traveling in could be blown up regardless. People planning to plant bombs don't need a mosque to do it, they need someone's basement. Stopping that building from being built doesn't help any in that regard. Now, here's the question - security stops some attacks, I grant you that. But the attack doesn't need to be successful to succeed. The goal is terror - and every report of an attempted bombing increases that, even if they failed to actually destroy anything. Do you recon the extremists might try to blow stuff up less if all that effort being put into security was instead put into not pissing off the rest of the planet?
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Nespin Fernagon Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:33 am
Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis. i wasn't so much opposed to it as I am was not really wanting it to be put THERE pretty scared yeah, it's not comforting knowing the vehicle your traveling in may blow up at anytime. not so much sweatdrop but it has stopped numerous attacks. But the vehicle you're traveling in could be blown up regardless. People planning to plant bombs don't need a mosque to do it, they need someone's basement. Stopping that building from being built doesn't help any in that regard. Now, here's the question - security stops some attacks, I grant you that. But the attack doesn't need to be successful to succeed. The goal is terror - and every report of an attempted bombing increases that, even if they failed to actually destroy anything. Do you recon the extremists might try to blow stuff up less if all that effort being put into security was instead put into not pissing off the rest of the planet? good point. i'm out of stuff to say >_< cuz I get the feeling you still have plenty to go on XD
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:40 am
AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis. i wasn't so much opposed to it as I am was not really wanting it to be put THERE pretty scared yeah, it's not comforting knowing the vehicle your traveling in may blow up at anytime. not so much sweatdrop but it has stopped numerous attacks. But the vehicle you're traveling in could be blown up regardless. People planning to plant bombs don't need a mosque to do it, they need someone's basement. Stopping that building from being built doesn't help any in that regard. Now, here's the question - security stops some attacks, I grant you that. But the attack doesn't need to be successful to succeed. The goal is terror - and every report of an attempted bombing increases that, even if they failed to actually destroy anything. Do you recon the extremists might try to blow stuff up less if all that effort being put into security was instead put into not pissing off the rest of the planet? good point. i'm out of stuff to say >_< cuz I get the feeling you still have plenty to go on XD Yup. Ah well - good debate. 3nodding
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Nespin Fernagon Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:43 am
Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm Nespin Fernagon AstralStorm harhar, I know why were in Iraq (at least I think I i do, unless there are hidden motives I havn't heard about) and as I said before, I'm scared because I have relatives living up in New York and I lost a few in 9/11 D: and unlike war, terrorists fight by using FEAR they terrorize (which is why the base word Terror in terrorists comes from, but you probly knew that alrdy) the populace, a country gripped by fear is easier to break apart then a country that isn't D: yes sure war kills many people, I know this but 9/11 hit harder than the war in Iraq because it had a meaning and a scary realization behind it. You're right - terrorists spread, well, terror. Tell me - how scared are you at the mere thought of a mosque in new york? Strongly enough to oppose it, yes? How frightened are people whenever they hear of another attack, of a bomber caught on a plain, in an airport, on the subway? Pretty scared, neh? And how much do the stricter security measures this fear spawns actually help? From what I can see, the reactions are only making people more and more terrified on a daily basis. i wasn't so much opposed to it as I am was not really wanting it to be put THERE pretty scared yeah, it's not comforting knowing the vehicle your traveling in may blow up at anytime. not so much sweatdrop but it has stopped numerous attacks. But the vehicle you're traveling in could be blown up regardless. People planning to plant bombs don't need a mosque to do it, they need someone's basement. Stopping that building from being built doesn't help any in that regard. Now, here's the question - security stops some attacks, I grant you that. But the attack doesn't need to be successful to succeed. The goal is terror - and every report of an attempted bombing increases that, even if they failed to actually destroy anything. Do you recon the extremists might try to blow stuff up less if all that effort being put into security was instead put into not pissing off the rest of the planet? good point. i'm out of stuff to say >_< cuz I get the feeling you still have plenty to go on XD Yup. Ah well - good debate. 3nodding blargh! the mad italian loses again X_x
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:13 pm
One thing though, you shouldn't judge another person's religion, except if there's something, very, very wrong(evil)
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:25 pm
Here's hoping it's not in the water, lol. There are people like that, unfortunately. However, I hope he (and any like him that were watching) changed his mind though.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:01 am
Suelita_M Here's hoping it's not in the water, lol. There are people like that, unfortunately. However, I hope he (and any like him that were watching) changed his mind though. who me? I'm not saying they're ALL bad, I'm just saying that I really really really really hate the ones that are scream
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