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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:19 am
you know there planning to send a telescope up into space which can see all the way to the other end of the universe supposuply... and aparent if they find other things outside our univerese all of science hence forth would have been a lie and that the universe isnt infite and if they dont find anything like nothingness then what will be true?
Do you understand what im thinking? if not ill try to be more spcific but some of the possible outcomes would be
All science has been a lie and all discoveries worthless All the science found out is true And another one they could find evidence that religion is a lie.... i dont get it but its weird and thats how i heard it...
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:26 am
First off, science is a process of trial and error. It is constantly changing and adding on to what we understand. If science comes up with a theory that proves to be wrong, then it will say its wrong and make necessary steps to correct itself. The idea that finding out the universe is finite rather than the theory that it is infinite will be mind-blowing and will greatly alter how we look at things. However, it will not disprove or make all science before it a lie. No, that is not how it works.
As for "...Science found out is true.", what do you mean? There is no way to definitely prove things in the universe. There are a few basic laws, that we know can never be "broken" (but they can have loopholes). Everything else is a theory, a thought of how it works based on experimentation, observation, and logical thinking. Hypotheses are ideas in science, but may lack experimentation or facts, thus making them had to prove as a theory. Religion, is a hypotheses as it has no clean evidence of its existence (Beliefs), plus, its very had to experiment with it.
Religion... thats a completely different argument. It does continue to be an effective way to control the masses, however it interferes sciences progress and the way a country can be run.
If we peer into the edge of the universe, we should find nothing. In our universe their is finite matter, that may go anywhere infinitely.
Think of it like Earths Atmosphere... the only reason the air is attracted to the planet is because of the forces that keep it there. Gravities attraction and our magnetic field keep the atmosphere intact. The universe does the same, through all kinds of forces... however, the universe is still thought to be expanding, from the point of origin. So, we live in an infinite space with a finite amount of matter and energy.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:38 am
X02WyvernLord First off, science is a process of trial and error. It is constantly changing and adding on to what we understand. If science comes up with a theory that proves to be wrong, then it will say its wrong and make necessary steps to correct itself. The idea that finding out the universe is finite rather than the theory that it is infinite will be mind-blowing and will greatly alter how we look at things. However, it will not disprove or make all science before it a lie. No, that is not how it works. As for "...Science found out is true.", what do you mean? There is no way to definitely prove things in the universe. There are a few basic laws, that we know can never be "broken" (but they can have loopholes). Everything else is a theory, a thought of how it works based on experimentation, observation, and logical thinking. Hypotheses are ideas in science, but may lack experimentation or facts, thus making them had to prove as a theory. Religion, is a hypotheses as it has no clean evidence of its existence (Beliefs), plus, its very had to experiment with it. Religion... thats a completely different argument. It does continue to be an effective way to control the masses, however it interferes sciences progress and the way a country can be run. If we peer into the edge of the universe, we should find nothing. In our universe their is finite matter, that may go anywhere infinitely. Think of it like Earths Atmosphere... the only reason the air is attracted to the planet is because of the forces that keep it there. Gravities attraction and our magnetic field keep the atmosphere intact. The universe does the same, through all kinds of forces... however, the universe is still thought to be expanding, from the point of origin. So, we live in an infinite space with a finite amount of matter and energy. The thing that really bakes your noodle is how an infinite space could come to be for a Big Bang to occur in the first place. Assuming infinite space, of course. Anyway, I agree with all that was said about science and revisions, etc. The universe being finite or infinite has no bearing on tried and true knowledge we already have. Some things in cosmology will have to be fixed though, no doubt.
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