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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:29 am
This will be my last post, but basically, I didn't mean for this to get out of hand, Twilight Chieftain didn't offend me and I don't think its necessary for people to jump in and to defend what I said. In general, lets all just relax. I hope Chieftain Twilight doesn't hold a grudge against me.
And for the record never actually posted anything saying his way of life is wrong, and I hope he understands that
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:11 am
I'm holding no grudges here. every person has a right to their opinion. I'm no drama queen. sweatdrop
and I will say that pineapple is mistaken about the demographic on Gaia. there may be a majority of middleschoolers and "vanilla lifestylers", but the Polies, Furries, BDSM, S&M, M/s, and other Alternative Lifestylers are actually pretty common. you'd be surprised how many there are.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:38 pm
if you know any communities or people who can relate, i'd go there. the people here just don't seem to be doing much but debating your lifestyle itself instead of the issues you're having, so i doubt there's much we can really do for you... : / (p.s. - i really admire the way you're handling this. i mean, i know i'd be at least a little upset if i was told that my entire lifestyle was wrong, hahah)
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:29 am
As the others, I find it difficult to understand the situation in its entirity, as it just seems so very complex and different. The main problem here seems to be these visions, as that's the only reason she thinks she cannot have another child? Does she have one already, as you said the second vision was that she would only have two children.
I can't really offer advice as to what to do if she's not willing to consider another child, but if the visions are the problem, then debunking them should resolve it - unless she thinks that she shouldn't have more children because of them, rather than them meaning she can't physically have any more.
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:29 am
it's more like her letting me know so that I don't get my hopes up only to hve them crushed. we've wanted children, since back in 09 we wanted them.
if the vision is wrong, then hurray! it's not like her and I arn't gonna still sleep together. xd
and thankyou, I think I will go to those other places for help on this. so far, my need for advice on this seems to over for now.
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:23 pm
Possible necro, and you may not see this, but I really get sick of people complaining about being 'demonized' for the sake of victimizing themselves in the eyes of everyone else.
@ Chieftain Twilight Get off your soap box. Considering that I and pirulaso were the only ones to post, and he really didn't say anything that could be even misunderstood as 'attacking' you, I'm gonna suppose all of you are referring to me. Your right, this is a free country. Your correct, the first amendment makes clear you have the right to believe what ever you want. Know what else it says? That me and anyone else who wants can disagree with you and even say, flat out, that we disagree. Freedom of speech means that if you make inappropriate comments about slave trading then I have every right to call you on them and say it's not cool. At NO point did I EVER say ANYTHING which demonized you, or anyone for that matter. The only person being a jerk is yourself, trying to sanctify your actions by turning everyone who disagrees into some sort of hate filled monster and making 'asides' suggesting everyone is somehow trampling on your rights.
@ majorspiker101 That goes for you too. Grow up! Fine, you're a wiccan. Hurrays and hurrah's! If your couldn't tell already I'm not wiccan, meaning I don't agree. Just like you have the religious freedom to be a wiccan, I have the religious freedom to say that your beliefs are untrue. It's not religious bashing or being 'unPC' or ANYTHING! It's me saying my opinion, and if you are going to whine every time your beliefs are called into question or that someone disagrees with you, then be quite and sit in your little corner complaining about how the world hates you for 'being different' because you can't handle that after DECLARING your beliefs everyone else may just declare THEIR OWN right back.
I'm sorry if this is harsh, but reality isn't so kind that everyone can play the little man or victim and have the crowd immediately rush to their aid every single time. Some times that reeeaaally annoying guy shows up to rock the boat by saying enough is enough.
(btw, News flash: I have friends who are wiccan. Just saying to discredit even the thought that I'm just some kind of religious zealot. No duh, satanists and wiccans are different, if anyone accuses me of saying otherwise I may just scream. So aaaall those getting ready to make a post accusing me of being a hate filled monster and yadda yadda yadda can really just step off. heart ))
@ !~[x] Cheri [x]~! Maybe at the very beginning people had, but since your last comment not a single person has actually debated his lifestyle. (Again: I never debated his life style. Said I might not agree, but never actually called it into question and that wasn't even the focus of my post.) Even if someone had there isn't anything wrong with it. Whether he's an axe toting murderer, Mr. 'Joe Average', the pope himself or a guy into S&M and polygamy, it doesn't make questioning his lifestyle somehow wrong. It's obvious that with something like this there would be at least a few people who would openly disagree, and as I've made clear, he hasn't handled it well at all. Of course a person would get upset. You would get upset, I would get upset, anyone would get upset. However, if a person doesn't want to be upset and can't take criticism without a grain of salt, then they shouldn't be opening themselves up to it in the first place. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I probably haven't handled this so well myself, but the point still stands even if now I am getting off my own soap box.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:47 am
dude, I've been off my soapbox for over a week already. stare and besides which, I never once said that anyone doesn't have the right to disagree with me or state their opinion. all I di was remind others that what I asked for was advice about how to aproach a touchy subject matter, not what to do with my life or whether or not to continue persuing the relationship I was in. and THAT was what the ******** I was angry about, which I have every right to be. I was NOT considering myself victimized.
so ******** you and the self-righteous attitude you came in here with. talk2hand go be holier-than-thou elsewhere, jackass.
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:19 am
nalyd you dumb ******** i wasnt whining about people attacking my religion i said attack it cause i am used to it and am not worried about wat you say i was just trying to get people to actually give advice to the question chieftain asked instead of just adding dumb s**t so nylad just saying your higher on your soapbox then most i dont know where i am in accordance with my soap box but if you would oh so enlighten me how to get off it i gladly will
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:31 am
This began with being slightly ridiculous (in my humble opinion) with the first post and then just increased exponentially in sheer absurdity. I think that we can all agree that no good will come from discussing this further, least of all now. Just... Just stop.
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