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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:38 am
does anyone know of a good program to help with learning how to speak it and write it not just phonetically
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:32 am
Aldo_Tsukiko_Gil does anyone know of a good program to help with learning how to speak it and write it not just phonetically Better to learn one at a time. Doing both at the same time, you risk burnout.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:37 pm
x Falsi Aldo_Tsukiko_Gil does anyone know of a good program to help with learning how to speak it and write it not just phonetically Better to learn one at a time. Doing both at the same time, you risk burnout. what should i start with i want to learn all the styles to it before i go to college because i want to take japanese and english as my majors
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:14 pm
Learn the kana first. After that, you could choose between kanji or go into vocab and grammar. Since you plan on learning in college, I suggest vocab and grammar.
I do not suggest majoring in japanese, though. If you plan on moving to japan, learn japanese but major in something else.
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:03 pm
x Falsi Learn the kana first. After that, you could choose between kanji or go into vocab and grammar. Since you plan on learning in college, I suggest vocab and grammar.
I do not suggest majoring in japanese, though. If you plan on moving to japan, learn japanese but major in something else. i want to major in both english and japanese so i can teach in both areas
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:05 pm
I see. Well, do what you want. Just advice. [: Many people who major in japanese regret it. I once considered it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:38 pm
Please pardon the length of this post, but I feel that to give proper advice in this area, I need to show you where I'm coming from.
I spent a year trying to teach myself Japanese through various media before I began studying at a university. My first class there was 1st year intensive Japanese, my very first official class in the subject and my very first university-level class. It was an 8-week 15-credit course covering the entire 1st year's material. It would have been hell if I hadn't already taught myself the kana, a handful of kanji, and some other fundamentals. When I entered the class, I basically knew my colors, numbers, days of the week (and their kanji), and "where's the bathroom?", but it made a huge difference. I had also read tons of books (or rather, the first couple chapters of tons of books), studied the first dozen or so lessons the Pimsleur audio series (which is available in CD format in most public libraries, and easily ripped for use in mp3 players--I highly recommend it), bought and regularly used Japanese Tutor for the Nintendo DS (which was almost useless--don't bother), and interviewed and taken handwriting samples from everybody I knew who knew anything about Japanese.
Just attending a university class and doing the required homework has done more for my learning than anything else I've tried. Even with the preparation I did beforehand, that class was crazy hard, but I watched my handwriting and speech making leaps and strides every day. Entering as a Junior, that class has given me the opportunity to go much farther in Japanese before I graduate than I otherwise could, which, as a linguistics major, is very important to me. I'm currently finishing the second quarter of second-year Japanese.
My favorite resources:
1) A little book called Read Japanese Today. You can find old editions at used books stores for super cheap, and it's a quick, relaxing read. It breaks down everyday kanji in a way that is easy to remember and fun to learn. This book made me love kanji. 2) Pimsleur. It breaks phrases into manageable pieces, then gives you lots of practice pronouncing and recalling them. It helped me gain an understanding of sentence structure, basic vocabulary and grammar, and the pronunciation and rhythm of Japanese. Plus I learned lots of useful phrases, mostly while walking to work. 3) My mentor. It's important to have someone you can ask questions, someone who's more familiar with Japanese than you are. It's also important to take their advice with a grain of salt, but don't ever dismiss it without consideration--you never know when that crazy thing they said is actually right.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:57 pm
im a sophmore in highschool and i use to use byki4 on the computer but it didnt do much when it came to teaching you to write and memorize kanji and all the toehr stuff but i learned a few phrases phonetically and i know how to pronounce certain things i hardly ever get to study since i am a track and cross country athlete and they dont offer japanese at our highschool but i still really want to learn
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:04 am
I just noticed that was all one sentence. ^ XD
I don't know if it would help you, but I learned kana the same way I learned the English alphabet - tracing repetitively.
I do not like language classes. I took one for Spanish once. Slow paced. Lovely how well that stuck. I'm much better off speaking with my Hispanic friends. My point is that self study can be effective if you're really dedicated. Everyone may learn at a different pace, but that's no reason to stay in your comfort zone.
Pimsleur or whatever it is called is not needed in my opinion. Assuming you've already got a good "feel" for the way the language sounds, kana will give you all the pronunciation you need for vocabulary/sentence building without kanji.
For vocabulary you can pretty much use whatever you want, assuming it is accurate.
Grammar you can learn almost anywhere on the web.
As for the kanji, I don't really know what to suggest other than Remembering the Kanji by James W. Hesig. It is the best. [:
Whatever path you choose, download Anki or at least check it out. There are many shared decks for different areas of japanese. For most, you'll need to know the kana. It is free.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:55 pm
come to where i live haha spanish will stick to you like glue haha i speak it perfectly because my parents only speak spanish but i speak mostly english when im not home haha is anki a really good program for remembering and exercising the hiragana and katakana?
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:58 pm
Aldo_Tsukiko_Gil come to where i live haha spanish will stick to you like glue haha i speak it perfectly because my parents only speak spanish but i speak mostly english when im not home haha is anki a really good program for remembering and exercising the hiragana and katakana? I didn't use Anki for kana, so I can't say really. It should work, though. It's a good idea to learn to write them too. [:
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:03 am
what did you use to learn them? did you learn them and recognize them to the point of fluency?
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:23 pm
x Falsi I don't know if it would help you, but I learned kana the same way I learned the English alphabet - tracing repetitively.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:52 pm
what nationality are you?
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