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le chevalier etoile

PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:25 am


So I am about to turn twenty, and as such I have recently been taking stock of my religious and spiritual beliefs to make sure I am still on the correct path for me. I have spent a lot of time thinking and overhauling much of what I believe, and in the end I feel a strong pull towards two very different paths, one of which is Asatru. I was wondering if any Heathens in the guild could recommend a book on Asatru for beginners- I would especially be thankful if the book covers heathen morality and human relationships with the Gods.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:43 am


A good beginner book is Essential Asatru by Diana Paxton. I'll post more a little later when I can look a few things up.

CalledTheRaven
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:06 pm


Even though she's apparently gone crazy, I quite liked "Exploring the Northern Tradition" by Galina Krasskova.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:35 pm


What's this now? Gone crazy?

CalledTheRaven
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:42 pm


CalledTheRaven
What's this now? Gone crazy?


Apparently she and Kaldera have gone rather off the deep end, and tie people up and inject them with saline and such while saying it's the will of the gods.

I've read Freya Aswynn's diatribe on it but that's all the information I have, so I don't know how accurate anything is. The concept of "god-slavery" within Heathenry I nonetheless find disturbing and distasteful, and as such I distance myself from them as individuals, but I prefer to read Krasskova's work separate from the allegations, and see what value it has on its own merits.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:34 am


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CalledTheRaven
What's this now? Gone crazy?


Apparently she and Kaldera have gone rather off the deep end, and tie people up and inject them with saline and such while saying it's the will of the gods.

I've read Freya Aswynn's diatribe on it but that's all the information I have, so I don't know how accurate anything is. The concept of "god-slavery" within Heathenry I nonetheless find disturbing and distasteful, and as such I distance myself from them as individuals, but I prefer to read Krasskova's work separate from the allegations, and see what value it has on its own merits.


Yeah. Somewhere along the line their concept of ordeals and knowing the darker side of self got very tangled up with BDSM and edgeplay, I think. Somehow I feel as if they think those who want to have deeper relationships with the Gods, or who are exploring relatively unmapped territory on their paths should automatically want to do it through those mediums. Which, frankly, is utter BS. Not everyone is wired that way.

If a person -knows- this about Kaldera's methods, and still chooses them, fine. It's their right. But I wonder how many people actually know about what happened.

An ordeal shouldn't be easy, by any stretch of the imagination - but I don't see why any ordeal should include things that were not agreed upon prior to the rite, especially considering that a person going through such a thing is in no fit mind to give informed consent.

Morgandria
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:57 pm


I'm happy with being tied to a tree for a while. Hel, I'd even do it for nine hours, if someone was there to give me water and I knew I wasn't going to have to pee halfway through. But someone controlling me and having to submit to them injecting me with s**t? How is that in keeping with Heathenry?

You want to be into BDSM, that's fine and I support your right to do that. It's your body, it's your choice. If you want to use these methods spiritually, that's fine too - I mean, I'd like to try a suspension one day. But don't say it's a part of the religion itself, because it's not. neutral
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