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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:12 pm
Please use this thread to post your own ideas on the kinds of services you would like to see, or to respond to the information already available and suggest how it could be improved.
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:21 am
I think you have a great idea here. I'm sure a lot of people will find this helpful. biggrin
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:08 am
Nobody's posted in this for too long; so I'm going to make it my duty to pitifully attempt to brutally criticize almost everything that I possibly can. Yesss...
OK, first, under Setting Up. Titles There's a way to be able to both have originality along with Keywords. When trying to mix originality with keywords in a title, I tend to find it 'funny' and not too original. One way for people to go with original/unique titles that want hits with keywords is something like:
Title - Keywords, slogan, or slogan w/ keywords.
Like with my guild, it's a general guild with a bunch of crap in it:
Our*Place - Literacy, slow pace, organized.
Or something like that, I don't know. It's just a suggestion that could be mentioned, though I know too long titles makes it seem cluttery or messy.
Front Page Here's something that I found missing in this part that I think maybe you could add content about.
Join forms. They really are important. When I want to join a guild, and there's nothing there showing what to write in the join form, it makes me feel unsure of myself, whether I missed something or post something wrong. Join forms can also indicate well to a person what sort of people are within the guild and what a guild may be like.
Like... take The Suites for example. Yes, it's not just SPAM but more discussion, and not dumbasses. However, that they accept anyone shows me that they are also open to many people, would like to grow as much as possible, and probably won't demand activity and such.
With RP guilds, asking for good RP samples and the like shows how 'elitest' or literate the RP guild really is; it works for both sides when trying to find the correct members or guild.
With normal guilds, join forms might be used in an interesting way to peak someone's interests... maybe anyway. And join forms are a good way to get information about the sort of people wanting into the guild, about if you want them to join or not, and info in general, like 'how did you find this guild' or 'why do you want to join?'.
Stuff like that... the rest of that post is fine and dandy though ^^ . I'll now send this post in, and start attempting to poke a stick at the next post of yours. This also gives me review of your guide, so I'm reminded of stuff I may have forgotten <3 .
<3 Ali
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:17 am
OK, lets see... Recruiting and Advertising. Advertising a Community Guild Hm, here's one thing that I'd like added. Just a little bit more on what specifically should be in an AD thread in Registered Guilds and the like. Since it's a whole thread, there'll probably be more room for info such as rules, crew, the subforums and what they hold, concepts or ideas or the like, etc.. Probably more longwinded than the homepage. Or at least... I think. I'm not really sure, which is kinda' why I ask in the first place xd .
Other than that... Oh wait!
Hm, another thing that could possibly be added is about asking members to invite friends and such, or makinga recruiting contest to get a large amount of new members quickly. Things such as contests or threads outside of the guild could also be used as advertisement; in the Gaiaversary I spent time in a guild thread w/o realizing it, then joined and became a bit of a regular for a while. So it works.
OK I think I got everything... yup, onto the next post thingy!
<3 Ali
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:36 am
Now at Staying Active. Fun topic, huh?
SO fun in fact, that I find this part flawless so far and am unable to find ANYTHING to even poke at. That makes me sad emo .
Heheh, just kiddin' ^^ . OK, on to next... Managing & Maintaining:
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:ish reading onto Collecting Feedback:
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Well, you spelled 'focused' wrong... only one 's'.
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Extra space between the last two paragraphs?
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Aaannndd that's all I can find gonk . Aw, at this rate I'll be finished before breakfast, and then what'll I have to do to waste my pathetic life on, eh? You made this too flawless, you could have at least had a few more spelling/grammar mistakes XP .
I'll get on to the next posts after this one. <3 Ali
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:00 pm
:sweatdrops:
I was dragged off to a 'friend's' house soon after church... for the rest of the day, got home around 11:30 around here.
I'll make my pitiful attempts at critique and comments tomorrow, yes, too tired to read xp .
<3 Ali
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:27 am
Thank you, Ali! crying heart
The closest thing to an actual critique this guide has ever experienced before this would probably be Galv's early complaint about the size of the writing, since he is averted to anything below 'normal' size (12). Those suggestions are really, really valid and I definitely appreciate getting that feedback. I'll be sure to add those points into the guide where appropriate. ^^ Can't wait to read your next one. whee
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:56 pm
Your welcome, glad you like it ^_^;; . I hate having to say 'I think this is flawless' because, well, I believe everybody asking for critique likes/wants critique, and I myself hate when the only thing I get is 'There's nothing wrong with it, it's perfect' when I know that's probably impossible whee .
Well, today I was sleeping until 3:30pm (I kid you not), and then... catching-up junk, and then twirling around to get back to this.
Now, Crewing. First, it had totally slipped my mind when constructing my guild to make rules for the crew as well until I saw another guild with rules for crew. It's one way to make for trying to let the crew know their duty, responsibility, and restrictions easily and without excuse. Also, showing the rules somewhere other than the Crew Only subforum many guilds have, such as in with the other general guild rules allows normal users to one, realize that the crew are just normal people as well, who even have rules to follow themselves, and two, know what limitations the crew have so they can't go powertrippin' believing that the members won't even know they're breaking rules and stuff.
Also, when asking a member to be crew, they should also tell them, in no uncertain terms, what is expected of them, their responsibilities in the guild, what rules crew have concerning their possible new position, and why they with to promote them... and the like. If someone is just bumped to Crew, while they'll have a good idea what duties they have, they should still be given more specific details on it; I was once bumped to Crew, and while I know basics of what I can probably do, when I do anything with my 'Crew powers', I'm always a little unsure if I was stepping out of bounds, even if it was just little stuff.
Oh, here's also a note that might be of a little interest. You're right, members can help just as much as crew can in many aspects. I don't think users really understand this to a very full extent.
I've mentioned a forum outside of Gaia, that anime forum that I like? It's members are almost as good at keeping new members and rulebreakers in place as mods and admin. Whenever someone breaks a rule, people point it out and tell them to fix it, like any of the mods, and people listen. Many members have done helpful things such as making directories, brining up wonderful ideas or thoughts, writing up rules or FAQs or articles, etc.. There are some members who I've taken a couple weeks to mildly ponder if they were normal members or mods. I feel almost no difference between mods and members, even though some of the mods are actually rather stick-in-the-muds or sarcastic. I can't say the same for people in guilds where I even knew the mods well before they were mods. In Gaia guilds, it feels as if members feel that only moderators can properly handle a mess if it's just a little too messy.
Oh, and crew doesn't always have to be kind and friendly... :giggles: . That anime forum? About 2-3 of the mods are rather sarcastic and not very friendly. Cold-shouldered is what they are. But they're loved, they're responsible, active, and above all, they are most definitely fair. They don't have to be nice to have good judgment and be fair; in fact, having a snippish, sarcastic or blunt mod may actually be a good thing for certain guilds; it helps keep some of the members in line, because they're intimidating and you don't want to mess with them. They make you feel belittled when you break rules and talk back xd . I'd like a mod like that in my Crew one day, anyway; as long as they're fair and sensible.
Anyway, that's all I have for now on Crew, that I can think of...
<3 Ali
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:23 pm
Being Remembered Also having a picture that they always use, a catchy/simple logo, or something like that should help...
There's a Shaman King guild I used to go to that has an artist in their guild, she drew a large SK-related pic on the front with stuff relating to their guild, saying things like 'most active SK guild!' and 'totally dub-free' and such; it left an impression better than an anime guild with, say, only stolen fanart or screenies or official pics cut together with text scribbled on. Even if fanart would look 'better' and more proffessional, things like personal art from an artist in the guild gives it a more personal, individual sort of look; and tells people that 'Hey, there's someone in there that draws relatively well SK fanart, cool!'.
Lots of things with the homepage, banners, title, and community are also very good for impressions. When I think of a guild, the things that come to mind are the homepage and official mini-guild banner thing first and foremost. Example, when I think of The Suites, I think of that cursivey silver text-images they used, along with how they organized things on the front page so simply and such. When I think of Ria High, I think of their front page, their little quotes and images and colors and organization and the like. Moderators Guild brings to mind organized red and green buttons and banner. Stuff like that.
I don't really know much of what else there is to say with this... sweatdrop .
<3 Ali
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:32 pm
Finally, last thing! Structuring Subforums. Here's a little grammar thingy: Overview ...main forums to beneath subforums' ... That confused me for a sec, had to reread it two or three times sweatdrop . Just delete the 'to'. I liked how you were able to properly explain what exactly subforums really were, though; organization tools, nothing more. <3 Concerning an idea similar to 'memorable threads' and 'recycle bin'. I believe an archive for all locked threads is very helpful and nice to have. Again, referring to that anime forum, they had an archive with every locked thread to keep in it; it holds their history, and I've sometimes found myself spending up to a few hours just reading old conversations of how two now-practically-best-friends first met in an argument, of how one of the stiff and somewhat cold-shouldered mods had, when they first joined, been a bit nicer and sociable, showing how everybody had first gotten to love them. I've also read icky times that the forum's been in, and such like that. I hate that with guilds that have history, where something apparently big happened that only older members know about, I can't just go to some archive to fish out the whole situation. I like to look back and see all that's happened. If I join an old guild with oldbies and the like, who have history behind it, which they often bring up, I want to know what they're talking about, so I don't feel so left out and so I feel like an actual part of the guild. It also works as a great recycle bin/memorable thread combination. Here's something about General Discussion, just something to maybe chew on?; in my guild, Chit-Chat (like GD) is probably going to be most popular to talk about; BUT I don't want it to be the main thing. If I made it the main forum, people would most likely only post in there, and not in the subforums; that's bad because the other subforums are supposed to be almost as important as the Chit-Chat. Actually, they're supposed to rank the same importance as Chit-Chat, it's just that Chit-Chat has more topics you can discuss in it and it'll just 'happen' to probably have more activity. So in order to try to signify to members that you should try looking at other forums as well, I made my 'GD' a subforum as well. I mean, I do believe that it'd be just as possible to spend most of your time in at least 5 of the other subforums rather than the Chit-Chat one. With announcements... Announcements ...some captains created [?]It just cut off. You must have accidentally deleted it. Another type of subforum you could talk about in-depth would be SPAM and guild activity/suggestions/etc.. Also, since someone else in CG recently had some trouble with it... some advice on what subforums to get first, when starting out with limited funds and trying to get an assortment. You know, out of the typical ones in a general guild; RP, Art, SPAM, ED, etc.. I'm not gonna' comment on the RP guilds thing, because I know little about RP guilds sweatdrop . Aaannndddd OK I'm done my rantings!! Woohoo! <3 Ali
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Basil Oberon Regulus XIII
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:01 pm
You seem to be missing a section in the Guild Services about affiliating with other guilds. It's not a major issue of course, but in the quest to gain publicity, affiliating with guilds that are already off to a good start is crucial. When my guild was still in its beginning stages, we gained many benefits from affiliating with the Literate RP Guild, and Crimson Ibis. Many of the members from those guilds saw the links to us on their front page, and if the hook is well made, that's all they have to do to eventually become a member of a guild.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:23 pm
Nice thinking Ali ^^ 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:05 pm
The Best Practices Guide is very well organized, built and said. I like the colors you used. Very good work WO.
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