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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:47 am


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The Short Second Life of yet another Sparkling Teenage b***h by Stephenie Meyer.

Even diehard fans of the Twilight Saga may wish to skip this one. Although Meyer adds some nice touches--the narrator is herself a vampire, for example--critics had few positive things to say about Bree's life story. "Intelligent and gifted, Bella, Jacob and Edward are intrinsically glamorous to readers," Salon notes. "But Bree is PVT (poor vampire trash) and she knows it." While Bree could have been interesting, she's less than the "wild, amoral, bloodthirsty teen protagonist" (Guardian) critics hoped to see; clunky prose and dialogue don't help. Still, the Washington Post speaks for many readers: "The satisfaction of Twilight novels cannot be measured by such terms as ‘good' and ‘bad.' ... [A]ll fans will read and all haters will skip [this novella] regardless of the reviews."


I'm tempted to rent this book just to see what the Twilight Fan's definition of "trash" is since we're apparently using emotionally manipulative teenage girls, abusive boyfriends, and furries with anger management issues as the standard these days.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:49 pm


I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:57 am


I think there have been other threads on this book, when it first came out.

I read it- its not as bad as Twilight, but still has the same flaws. stare
PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:28 pm


Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:29 pm


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Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"User Image


Er... Yeerks went in through the ear canal if I remember rightly. I think the whatevertheywerecalleds from Stargate SG1 went in through the back of the neck.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:37 pm


The Crinos
Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"

I personally think it sound ridiculously similar to the Goa'uld from the Stargate series. Same concept of an alien embryo being placed into a human host and taking over the body via the back of the neck.

With the exception of the fact that the Goa'uld are pure concentrated evil (mostly)...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:11 pm


The Unholy Shadow
The Crinos
Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"
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Er... Yeerks went in through the ear canal if I remember rightly. I think the whatevertheywerecalleds from Stargate SG1 went in through the back of the neck.
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Right, my apologies. The Go'A'ould. With the exception of their soldier class, where the alien was placed in through the stomach.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:31 pm


The Crinos
The Unholy Shadow
The Crinos
Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"
User Image


Er... Yeerks went in through the ear canal if I remember rightly. I think the whatevertheywerecalleds from Stargate SG1 went in through the back of the neck.
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Right, my apologies. The Go'A'ould. With the exception of their soldier class, where the alien was placed in through the stomach.

Wow, seriously? I think there's no doubt in my mind now that Stephenie Meyer is a big-time plagarizer (is that a word?). There's another thread on this guilt (sorry, don't have a link,) about how she was sued for plagarism on Breaking Dawn, and it sounded like pretty much the first two-thirds of the book was the same as the plot of some largely-unknown novel called The Nocturne or something like that. Now with two accusations...? Meyer isn't just crazy anymore... she's crazy and a cheat.

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Skadi Sundermount


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:29 am


Mystic_Keisa
The Crinos
The Unholy Shadow
The Crinos
Mystic_Keisa
I'm personally tempted to just IGNORE it.

Seriously, this is just sad... usually, when authors write side stories, they have some actual connection to the characters... this seems to have almost no connection. I'm not saying I actually cared enough to memorize it or some such crap, but I actually did read all four Twilight books just so I could complain about them in an educated manner, and I don't remember any such person as "Bree Tanner". May I just say, the name has ZERO originality (both the title and the character's name).

What really bothers me is that they're trying to market it as such a good book because they'll donate a dollar to the Red Cross... it's great when author's donate money to good causes (and not to hate on people with different preferences than crazy vampire authors like Meyer), but to write a book just for it to be marketed like this? I find it gross. Even when J.K. Rowling donated ALL the profits from her side books (Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle), it wasn't marketed as charity; a note went in the foreword of the books and people bought the books because they WANTED to.

Sorry if this is half incoherent... I'm falling asleep as I type.

While on the topic of Meyer's other novels, I also read The Host... no one really remembers it now, and it wasn't that good of a book, but it was certainly refreshing simply because it wasn't this stupid idea of sparkling vampires... if it weren't for Twilight, it would simply be a normal book. It's a little interesting because the concept is entirely original (as far as I know, I don't read much true sci-fi), but it has all of Meyer's problems... sappy romance, flat characters, sob stories for no reason at all, male dominance and female submissiveness, overly perfect endings that shouldn't happen... When will Meyer do us all a favor and just STOP WRITING this nonsense?

I agree one hundred percent. Compared to to Twilight, the HOST was passable, and if it were all she wrote, it would have been moderately fine. But on a side-note, she ripped off the specific idea about aliens being implanted in the back of the neck from a series called "Animorphs"
User Image


Er... Yeerks went in through the ear canal if I remember rightly. I think the whatevertheywerecalleds from Stargate SG1 went in through the back of the neck.
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Right, my apologies. The Go'A'ould. With the exception of their soldier class, where the alien was placed in through the stomach.


Wow, seriously? I think there's no doubt in my mind now that Stephenie Meyer is a big-time plagarizer (is that a word?). There's another thread on this guilt (sorry, don't have a link,) about how she was sued for plagarism on Breaking Dawn, and it sounded like pretty much the first two-thirds of the book was the same as the plot of some largely-unknown novel called The Nocturne or something like that. Now with two accusations...? Meyer isn't just crazy anymore... she's crazy and a cheat.

Well thank you people for not only proving that maybe Meyer isn't as much of a plagiarist as we sometimes accuse her of being, just incredibly cliche, but also that basically all Sci-Fi novels, especially ones featuring alien species apparently, basically follow the same formula.

Sorry people, I hate the books too, but I just don't think the argument that Meyer copied her stories and ideas from someone elses' work to be a valid one. Honestly, by these standards, every fiction and science fiction writer in the world is guilty of copying someone else.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:46 pm


Naw, she's not a plagiarist, just very unoriginal. The concept of an alien taking over a human is an old cliche that has been done countless times over. I was a little weary of the ones in "The Host" just because they had a suspicious amount of similarities to the Gou'ald, but they're not alike enough to cry 'plagiarism'.

I'll grant her one thing; The Host actually had the potential to be a decent story. The concept was actually pretty nice. It's not the most original Sci-Fi idea but it's not entirely terrible. Then she took it and tossed in that godawful love triangle between the host, the alien within her, and the male love interest and it sunk like a piece of lead.

Was I the only one who felt like Meyer tries WAY too hard to force her audience to pick the side SHE wants them to? Near the end of the book, after the aliens did that a*****e stunt of taking over every human on earth, kidnapping a girl so the main alien could have another body, and generally stirring up s**t she all of a sudden try to pull the "Boo hoo we're all good deep down inside and in spite of everything we've done we're super special snowflakes and you need to side with us" nonsense.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:17 pm


I haven't read The Host- I could barely stomach the Twilight garbage.
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