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 Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:22 pm
I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens?
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:30 pm
The first time i finish AC2 and i saw that part at the end i said i got to get part 3.I really want to see what they going to say next.If you just watched the video yeah its going to make you think.But once you play it all they way through I guarantee you going to think more.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:39 pm
Obscurus I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens? i wonder the same thing...
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:44 pm
Obscurus I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens? yea like i said when it comes to a subject like Aliens. i think it would be safe to say most talk is speculation from most common folk such as me. to me personally it just makes more sense for aliens to be some sort of inter-dimensional beings ors spirits or something of that nature just based on the UFO and alien encounters that cant be debunked so easily. (alot can be). mainly because the cases that are hard to debunk UFO's or aliens dont follow rule that we would think must be followed on our physical plane so it would seem that they are not nut and bolts physical aliens that build crafts that can travel here. haha really its all a bizarre subject. i dont take stuff in the bible literal especially old testament. it just makes more sense to me that aliens would be some sort of spirits and based on witnesses that are more difficult to debunk not friendly ones.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:50 pm
Infow607 Obscurus I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens? yea like i said when it comes to a subject like Aliens. i think it would be safe to say most talk is speculation from most common folk such as me. to me personally it just makes more sense for aliens to be some sort of inter-dimensional beings ors spirits or something of that nature just based on the UFO and alien encounters that cant be debunked so easily. (alot can be). mainly because the cases that are hard to debunk UFO's or aliens dont follow rule that we would think must be followed on our physical plane so it would seem that they are not nut and bolts physical aliens that build crafts that can travel here. haha really its all a bizarre subject. i dont take stuff in the bible literal especially old testament. it just makes more sense to me that aliens would be some sort of spirits and based on witnesses that are more difficult to debunk not friendly ones. I'm not opposed to the spiritual or interdimensional angle, I'm just curious as to why people are always applying Christian thinking to this sort of thing.
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:12 am
Just because an idea is older, doesn't make it true.
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:14 pm
The rose in spring Just because an idea is older, doesn't make it true. That's true. Again though, why Christianity as the lens through which this is interpreted? What makes it any different from the dozens of other religions when it comes to veracity?
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:36 am
Obscurus You guys ever play Deus Ex? I've mentioned this game over 9000 times (hyperbole) in this guild but I never get a response. I highly recommend the game as even after a decade it is still scarily similar to the world we live in. The developer explanation for why the Twin Towers aren't in the New York level is interesting as well: a terrorist attack. The game was made in 2000. Seriously, it's a very good game even if you don't believe anything in it. I think most of us can appreciate the subject matter though. Are you suggesting that the twin towers were wearing a big "blow the hell out of me" sign? I mean, someone only tried to blow them up in 1997, and then succeeded on 9/11/01. Less coincidence, more seeing the big arse target the towers were. And yes, that game was the s**t.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:55 pm
The rose in spring Just because an idea is older, doesn't make it true. Agreed, to an extent. Most newer theological ideals have inspiration rooted within older religious ideals. In essence, no religion is much different than the one that came before it - perhaps more successful or widely accepted - but never too far from the tree of spiritual idealism. But on a flip side, I'd make the assumption that newer ideals that are added upon by modern views are less true - to phrase that better, more or less ring of less inspiration and morale - than older ones due to diluted concepts, power trips, etc. It is a wonderful question though that whenever it comes to a question of serious thought, a Christian mindset usually takes the fore front. Maybe it's due to the rabid following(?) or perhaps the very open ended prophecies delivered? Or it could possibly be the entire "ease of access" of the belief system... I hate having a decent response and upon the attempt to respond, most of it becomes jumbled and lost... my apologies for any confusion.
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:03 pm
padfu Obscurus You guys ever play Deus Ex? I've mentioned this game over 9000 times (hyperbole) in this guild but I never get a response. I highly recommend the game as even after a decade it is still scarily similar to the world we live in. The developer explanation for why the Twin Towers aren't in the New York level is interesting as well: a terrorist attack. The game was made in 2000. Seriously, it's a very good game even if you don't believe anything in it. I think most of us can appreciate the subject matter though. Are you suggesting that the twin towers were wearing a big "blow the hell out of me" sign? I mean, someone only tried to blow them up in 1997, and then succeeded on 9/11/01. Less coincidence, more seeing the big arse target the towers were. And yes, that game was the s**t. I'm suggesting that it's incredibly eerie that a limitation in the game design was given an in-story explanation that became reality a year later. The makers of Deus Ex had a vision of the future not so different from the world we live in now; not just in the destruction of the WTC but in other aspects of the game (mostly the slow erosion of civil liberties and such). It's the same kind of eerie as the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen where a computer controlled airplane is stopped from crashing into the WTC. That episode aired in March 2001.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:11 am
Obscurus Infow607 Obscurus I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens? yea like i said when it comes to a subject like Aliens. i think it would be safe to say most talk is speculation from most common folk such as me. to me personally it just makes more sense for aliens to be some sort of inter-dimensional beings ors spirits or something of that nature just based on the UFO and alien encounters that cant be debunked so easily. (alot can be). mainly because the cases that are hard to debunk UFO's or aliens dont follow rule that we would think must be followed on our physical plane so it would seem that they are not nut and bolts physical aliens that build crafts that can travel here. haha really its all a bizarre subject. i dont take stuff in the bible literal especially old testament. it just makes more sense to me that aliens would be some sort of spirits and based on witnesses that are more difficult to debunk not friendly ones. I'm not opposed to the spiritual or interdimensional angle, I'm just curious as to why people are always applying Christian thinking to this sort of thing. well when you say "people" im assuming you see this quite a bit so a quick answer could be: maybe because christianity has been beatin into the minds of people who live in the WEST (im from USA) the reason i bring up christian perspective on this point is a couple of reasons. the bible has scripture that could be interpreted as talking about alien like beeings. and it talks about fallen angels for sure. also the thought that an alien race created us rather then God could be some kind of deception? idk really but if u say people always apply christian thinking to a subject such as alien i think it may have to do with somthing to the effect of denoucing "alien" beeings trying to take credit for Gods work.
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:13 pm
Infow607 Obscurus Infow607 Obscurus I'm not entirely sure why people accept Christianity over any other philosophy on this. There are much larger and much older religions than Christianity. What is so special about it that it gives the rules to follow when it comes to discussing Theosophy and aliens? yea like i said when it comes to a subject like Aliens. i think it would be safe to say most talk is speculation from most common folk such as me. to me personally it just makes more sense for aliens to be some sort of inter-dimensional beings ors spirits or something of that nature just based on the UFO and alien encounters that cant be debunked so easily. (alot can be). mainly because the cases that are hard to debunk UFO's or aliens dont follow rule that we would think must be followed on our physical plane so it would seem that they are not nut and bolts physical aliens that build crafts that can travel here. haha really its all a bizarre subject. i dont take stuff in the bible literal especially old testament. it just makes more sense to me that aliens would be some sort of spirits and based on witnesses that are more difficult to debunk not friendly ones. I'm not opposed to the spiritual or interdimensional angle, I'm just curious as to why people are always applying Christian thinking to this sort of thing. well when you say "people" im assuming you see this quite a bit so a quick answer could be: maybe because christianity has been beatin into the minds of people who live in the WEST (im from USA) the reason i bring up christian perspective on this point is a couple of reasons. the bible has scripture that could be interpreted as talking about alien like beeings. and it talks about fallen angels for sure. also the thought that an alien race created us rather then God could be some kind of deception? idk really but if u say people always apply christian thinking to a subject such as alien i think it may have to do with somthing to the effect of denoucing "alien" beeings trying to take credit for Gods work. I get that, but I'm not sure what makes Christianity any more valid of a lens than Hinduism, etc. when it comes to this. I'm not knocking it; I just think that people should examine the motives behind it. Then again, for some people, Christianity is the only way to view it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:10 pm
Los_Stunna But yea back to the point some of us have play the game assasins Creed well assasins creed is a game made by a religious group of gamer who have a clue to our past look at this video maybe open up your mind I just heard from a random gamer quoting Assassin's Creed as 'Gods gift to gamerkind.' Just plain bullshit. Attach your hips to the ideas, and your hands to the controllers, of any of the s**t they happen to produce.
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