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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:29 pm
You really need to get some help from someone who is above her authority. You need to find at least one person who will listen to you and look into it. For this woman to be doing these things..... something really bad must have happened and she just kinda snapped. You need to find a way to get her out of there, and fast.
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:01 pm
Update from state Competition:
They got a good. Which, for those who dont know rankings vs ratings, Good is a low score. an excellent is basically saying your band is good, and poor/fair are extremely low. Superior is the highest you can get. Good is not good.
Apparently, a few of the band members are crying. Thats what i heard via text message from a friend. And the main thing people are saying:
The director changed too much this week.
Apparently, she was changing complete drill spots just today, and on Monday she had people learning other people's spots. Had she just elft it and improved stuff, instead of completely changing it, we probably would have done far better.
I think this means that she has officially reached rock bottom. Its all her fault. there are some slower kids in this band who cannot deal with sch sudden change as changing stuff the day of the competition. even good players need at least 3 days to learn something new. And she gave not even 3 hours. And I bet you she is standing talkign to them on the buses, saying it is theeir fault. That they didnt work hard enough. I know this from past experiences with her. It is never her fault. Always ours.
I'm almost in tears, and i didnt even go, or care what they got. I'm almost in tears because last year this would never have happened. I'm almost in tears because of those poor freshman who were so excited to go to state. I'm almost in tears because all those freshman are now heartbroken. The entire band is heartbroken. I'm almsot in tears because I don't like seeing them heartbroken. And i hate her for it. they are my family, and she, in one competition, brought them down to tears. One of the nicest, friendliest flute payers in the beand is apparently curled up on the bus seat bawling her eyes out. and its all her fault. And its gonna take all my self control on Monday not to say that to her face.
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:14 pm
Blech to the double post but:
Concert season isnt going to be much better.I was hoping it would be, bt its not.
She is requiring us to do regionals or solo/ensemble auditions. For a grade. And she is making us pay for it. So we have to pay to get a grade, pay to pass the class. This isn't so bad to me becaus ei was going to do regionals again this year anyway, but she had a few people stressed out because they didnt want to or think they could do either one that now have to and thye have nothing to do about it. Or they plain cant afford it. Today she made us fill out a form saying which of the three, regionals, solo or ensemble, we wanted to do. we could do all three at most. well, she said that if we did not turn in a form, she would sign us up for all 3. and they would still hve to pay. And the fee is per performer per performance, so if you do 2 you have to double the amount, do 3 its triple. And if you dont show up, you pretty much fail band.
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:30 pm
ok paying for a grade, without prior knowledge, is like, illegal...or something...now you REALLY have to talk to someone. or maybe pretend you don't have the money and ask her what to do? that might be what i'd do if i was in as desperate a situation as you are...
oh and back to the original post: i would probably transfer if i had the choice. because my first impulse would be to quit, but i'm uncomfortable with quitting stuff (how i was raised haha) but i had the chane to go to a different program, still being able to do what i love, i'd definitely go for it smile
(heck, i'd even see if i could get out at the semester!)
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:50 am
une_pomme_verte ok paying for a grade, without prior knowledge, is like, illegal...or something...now you REALLY have to talk to someone. or maybe pretend you don't have the money and ask her what to do? that might be what i'd do if i was in as desperate a situation as you are... oh and back to the original post: i would probably transfer if i had the choice. because my first impulse would be to quit, but i'm uncomfortable with quitting stuff (how i was raised haha) but i had the chane to go to a different program, still being able to do what i love, i'd definitely go for it smile (heck, i'd even see if i could get out at the semester!) I would switch at the semester, but here thats extremely difficult. Theres a lot of paperwork involved, my district is stupid(technically, they dont even know im not in my school boundaries anymore, an dif they do, they never told us they did like they were supposed to). The biggest problem is getting credits switched over. Everyone I've known who has switched at the semester got screwed over with credits. So unfortunately, I'm stuck with her through concert. Plus, my friends still go to my current school, and I want to wait until my supersenior friend graduates because I'll miss him the most. And agreed with the quitting stuff. i dont quit. I conveniently forget. But thats only on art projects. If i was a quitter, I wouldn't be in AP english right now(althoug I also wouldnt be failing ap english right now, but thats not the point.) Thing abotu the audition stuff, is that I actually want to do them. and one kid literally cant pay for it, and rought this up to the teacher. she said find a way and sent him on his way. And she told us to be nice to this kid during marching season!
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:42 pm
ClarinetGoddess une_pomme_verte ok paying for a grade, without prior knowledge, is like, illegal...or something...now you REALLY have to talk to someone. or maybe pretend you don't have the money and ask her what to do? that might be what i'd do if i was in as desperate a situation as you are... oh and back to the original post: i would probably transfer if i had the choice. because my first impulse would be to quit, but i'm uncomfortable with quitting stuff (how i was raised haha) but i had the chane to go to a different program, still being able to do what i love, i'd definitely go for it smile (heck, i'd even see if i could get out at the semester!) I would switch at the semester, but here thats extremely difficult. Theres a lot of paperwork involved, my district is stupid(technically, they dont even know im not in my school boundaries anymore, an dif they do, they never told us they did like they were supposed to). The biggest problem is getting credits switched over. Everyone I've known who has switched at the semester got screwed over with credits. So unfortunately, I'm stuck with her through concert. Plus, my friends still go to my current school, and I want to wait until my supersenior friend graduates because I'll miss him the most. And agreed with the quitting stuff. i dont quit. I conveniently forget. But thats only on art projects. If i was a quitter, I wouldn't be in AP english right now(althoug I also wouldnt be failing ap english right now, but thats not the point.) Thing abotu the audition stuff, is that I actually want to do them. and one kid literally cant pay for it, and rought this up to the teacher. she said find a way and sent him on his way. And she told us to be nice to this kid during marching season! lol i like the conveniently forgetting...sounds like me haha smile about the credits: that sucks. i sorry sad well, i wish you good luck with the rest of the year... sad also, have you tried talking to the teachers whose classes you're failing? lol i know some at my school who'd probably help because they love the band. do you have any of those?
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:10 am
une_pomme_verte ClarinetGoddess une_pomme_verte ok paying for a grade, without prior knowledge, is like, illegal...or something...now you REALLY have to talk to someone. or maybe pretend you don't have the money and ask her what to do? that might be what i'd do if i was in as desperate a situation as you are... oh and back to the original post: i would probably transfer if i had the choice. because my first impulse would be to quit, but i'm uncomfortable with quitting stuff (how i was raised haha) but i had the chane to go to a different program, still being able to do what i love, i'd definitely go for it smile (heck, i'd even see if i could get out at the semester!) I would switch at the semester, but here thats extremely difficult. Theres a lot of paperwork involved, my district is stupid(technically, they dont even know im not in my school boundaries anymore, an dif they do, they never told us they did like they were supposed to). The biggest problem is getting credits switched over. Everyone I've known who has switched at the semester got screwed over with credits. So unfortunately, I'm stuck with her through concert. Plus, my friends still go to my current school, and I want to wait until my supersenior friend graduates because I'll miss him the most. And agreed with the quitting stuff. i dont quit. I conveniently forget. But thats only on art projects. If i was a quitter, I wouldn't be in AP english right now(althoug I also wouldnt be failing ap english right now, but thats not the point.) Thing abotu the audition stuff, is that I actually want to do them. and one kid literally cant pay for it, and rought this up to the teacher. she said find a way and sent him on his way. And she told us to be nice to this kid during marching season! lol i like the conveniently forgetting...sounds like me haha smile about the credits: that sucks. i sorry sad well, i wish you good luck with the rest of the year... sad also, have you tried talking to the teachers whose classes you're failing? lol i know some at my school who'd probably help because they love the band. do you have any of those? Well, the class I failed that made me ineligible was aP english, but the teacher is being a real ahole. She gave me an "incomplete" which means you ahve til a certain point to get it up. Well, i worked my butt off trying to get the stuff turned in, and evn after i turned everything in, she said she wouldnt bring it up. She told my parents she wouldnt bring it up because i just wanted it for band. There were other band kids with worse grades in her class then me that got theirs up after doing 1 thing...And was turning in quality work too.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:13 pm
That sounds absolutely awful. I mean, we have our drama in our band, but nowhere near as bad as that...
If you're a junior right now, I wouldn't recommend switching schools. Even if you quit band, you'll still get to be in a place you're familiar with and with your friends.
But if you're a sophomore or freshman and switch, you'll get to meet new friends within two years easily. Being in a 100+ band is actually pretty fun (I've been in 160, and it's progressed down to about 119 this year). Everyone still knows everyone else, but there's more variety in people. Sometimes there's little cliques (we used to have a lot more), but for the most part, it works out pretty well. Of course, it varies, but overall I've enjoyed it!
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:29 pm
Oh, I had a varsity swim coach like this.
She was pretty much senile -- couldn't hear at all, going somewhat blind too.
She pushed the club swimmers (I'm not one) super hard until they almost passed out, while treating the rest of us (the ones not rich enough to afford club swim) like annoying little kids. She didn't let any of the swimmers get out for breaks (even bathroom ones!) and would make us line the water bottles up in the back so we wouldn't be "distracted" between drills. She was horrible -- never put us in the right events at all (the 500, the longest event, for the inexperienced swimmers then 50s for the good ones? what?!) and totally played favorites.
I have a knee problem and my friend's shoulder has been dislocated several times (her estranged father was abusive) so we'd have to get out of the pool and do stretches. Our JV coach encouraged us to do this! But our varsity coach would make us do extra laps afterward. Yet if a club swimmer would stop practicing and sit around doing nothing, for no reason, then she wouldn't say anything and they wouldn't be punished at all. If we had to miss practice she'd make us come in for extra weekend practices, which would have been fine if she didn't work us extremely hard then. Yet if a club swimmer skipped practice with no excuse? Totally fine with her.
ANYWAY.
The swim team complained to our new principal (our old one didn't care about any sport but football and basketball) and she was promptly fired.
Now our amazing JV coach is taking over varsity. <3 =)
TALK TO SCHOOL OFFICIALS!!
Make a petition if you have to. Call the school board.
HAVE LEGIT EVIDENCE!
RECORD rehearsals (secretly -- which is what we did!) and take pictures.
Definitely tape record all the abusive stuff she says, too.
If nothing changes, CONTACT THE STATE.
Seriously -- someone could die without enough water during practice.
You guys can't let her abuse you like that!
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:45 am
flauterfli Oh, I had a varsity swim coach like this.
She was pretty much senile -- couldn't hear at all, going somewhat blind too.
She pushed the club swimmers (I'm not one) super hard until they almost passed out, while treating the rest of us (the ones not rich enough to afford club swim) like annoying little kids. She didn't let any of the swimmers get out for breaks (even bathroom ones!) and would make us line the water bottles up in the back so we wouldn't be "distracted" between drills. She was horrible -- never put us in the right events at all (the 500, the longest event, for the inexperienced swimmers then 50s for the good ones? what?!) and totally played favorites.
I have a knee problem and my friend's shoulder has been dislocated several times (her estranged father was abusive) so we'd have to get out of the pool and do stretches. Our JV coach encouraged us to do this! But our varsity coach would make us do extra laps afterward. Yet if a club swimmer would stop practicing and sit around doing nothing, for no reason, then she wouldn't say anything and they wouldn't be punished at all. If we had to miss practice she'd make us come in for extra weekend practices, which would have been fine if she didn't work us extremely hard then. Yet if a club swimmer skipped practice with no excuse? Totally fine with her.
ANYWAY.
The swim team complained to our new principal (our old one didn't care about any sport but football and basketball) and she was promptly fired.
Now our amazing JV coach is taking over varsity. <3 =)
TALK TO SCHOOL OFFICIALS!!
Make a petition if you have to. Call the school board.
HAVE LEGIT EVIDENCE!
RECORD rehearsals (secretly -- which is what we did!) and take pictures.
Definitely tape record all the abusive stuff she says, too.
If nothing changes, CONTACT THE STATE.
Seriously -- someone could die without enough water during practice.
You guys can't let her abuse you like that! For recording things, a couple of us have tried to record things, but got yelled at for having electronics on the field. When someone put it in their hat, the dms still saw it and got mad. The head dm actually told him "I think i know what youre doing, so its probably a good thing im the one who caught you. Put that away ebfore she finds it and takes it away." He was nice about it. As for the principle, weve tried. We just got a new one as well this year, because our old one quit suddenly last amrching season, oddly not long after the sytadium lights went haywire and we couldnt use them cause they might explode. However, this new principle is trying so hard to change things as well. Hes trying to make our school less of a druggy/who cares school to a respectable and nice school. If you ask me, hes focusing on his a bit much, and doesnt take many teacher complaints. Yet, if you walk in abotu a student he will take top priority. Ask about a teacher and hell send you abck to class, even at lunch. And the few parents who did manage to contact him, he just said that s she had a alot on her plate and was just tryning to do her job. If I'm correct, one parent is gathering a lsit of student complaints. I dont know wha she is going to do with them, just that she is gathering them up.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:25 pm
(Eck, double post, sorry)
So, we got progress reports today. Not official grades, just I guess you could call them warnings.
Somehow, i managed a c in band. I missed a game. That should not have been brought down that low.
The onyl way this could have happened: She counted all the rehearsals, as well as state festival. Which was not my decision. The rehearsals were spent unwillignly in the band room working on homework because she told me to. She told us nto to show up for the festival. Yet, i bet she counted it. Because again, we had abotu 20(overexagerated) games, and I missed one. Should not make a diference between 2 letter grades.
Games were worth not even half a festival. So if you missed a festival, and onyl that msised game was counted, then anyone who missed a festival was screwed. Which I doubt, yet i wouldnt be surprised either.
At this point,e ven student staff is threatenign to quit. Trumpet section leader will not be coming back his senior year. I'm loosing one of my best clarients. Jazz band is dwindling lower and lower every rehearsal.
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:01 pm
I'd seriously talk to other teachers or the school authorities. If she's being this bad, then maybe they should get a student teacher, or even just someone from another school, or someone who is retired. One of my teachers got so stressed they called in a retired teacher and she taught us for two/three straight weeks.
If she's ruining everyone's year in band, especially the senior's last year, then tell someone!
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