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lately ive been thinking about why im atheist and its simple because i feel theres no proof of a god but ive been questioning it unreasonably and i dont know. i feel wrong when ive always felt right about it forever. I never felt religious at all so i dont understand why i would feel this way. so could somebody explain their religion to me ive also never heard of some of the religions that people have been talking about on here.

ya but... how can you be spiritual? by believing in something or someone?

i've always defined religion as being bound by dogma and oftentime also heirarchy. Spirituality doesn't need that, so if someone is Spiritual but doesn't beilieve in settling on their belief as an objective truth that can never be wrong and there's no point in considering the possibility that it's wrong, than that person isn't religious. they are still Spiritual.

i'm that way. i'm a non-religious Spiritualist. i am personally an Ecclectic Animist, i practice a sort of mixture of Shamanism, Totemism, and Ritual Witchcraft, and love learning about different religions, Mythologies, Cultures, etcetera. i am constantly challenging myself to question my own beliefs. and while not initiated in the Order of the Illuminates of Thanateros, i do follow almost their entire Philosophy, and Practice Magic in much the same way as them. it is very Experimental and Experiential.

I never understood why god would give any more purpose to life than it already has. Cause it's essentially just shifting the answer to something you define is the answer.

Example: So, the purpose of life is to lead a good life, praise god and then be with him forever in heaven.

OK, good. What is the purpose of that? Does god wonder about what his purpose is ... wait, I can already hear the answer: "God gives himself his own purpose." Or something along those lines. A lot like the first cause argument. But as in the first cause argument, god ends the chain of causes, in this respect god ends the chain of purposes. Which doesn't really answer anything. You just make up a cut-off point and call it god.

Goes the same for all spiritual beliefs that offer "purpose". You can always ask: OK, but what's the purpose of that.

Very true. I like what you say and you have actually given me something to think on. Then again if the purpose of life is to just die then isn't death the cut off point? Is there even a purpose to begin with or is life just meaningless and there is nothing beyond the grave. Maybe you do not have a soul and you are simply science and the universe does continue on without you. Sorry just rambling lol.

But anyway for ThePanties, I am sort of an atheist myself. I was born into christianity but around 7th grade I found myself to be a nonbeliever. I, like you, find no proof of god. Then again from what I was taught there is no proof to begin with. Which is why you need to have 'Faith' to be a true believer of god. Faith is simply belief without a doubt or without physical proof of his existance. So I don't know what to say to you pal i'm in the same boat.

I have experienced things outside of the christian religion though. Years ago I got involved into some heavy stuff. Meditation and power of the mind threw a god I will leave undescribed. I did experience some terrifying things that I can talk to you threw PM about if your interested. Then again I doubted that it was any sort of god and maybe it was simply power of the mind and the fact that I truly did believe it all to be true so it became reality. Just like the monks that live in the mountains (Somewhere over seas) that raise there body temperature threw meditation and actually walked around barely clothed in icy conditions and survive the cold.

So then what is the purpose of death if you do have a soul? When I try to imgine eternity I start to freak out a little. Try thinking about the blackness of nonexistance. Black is the absence of everything so it would not be white. I love those shows that show people floating in white... It's an oxymoron.