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 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:32 pm
death angel712 King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 Archduke wonderwaffle death angel712 There were Russians that wanted to fight with the Germans to liberate them from their oppressive communist government, until the SS started killing babies. If we started pushing into Russia, it's a near certainty that there would Russian civilians eager and willing to help us. And I mean a lot of Russian civilians. Not to mention the fact that any Russian soldier that surrenders would have better living conditions in our custody than they would on the front, meaning a lot of them would be surrendering. True, however we would have practically been up against human waves. Let me remind you that the German military came very very close to taking over Russia with less men than we would have been able to put in the fight, because of their superior leaders. Not only was our leadership just as good, but our weapons were superior to German weapons. And our industrial might was unmatched, two thirds of all vessels afloat on the ocean were made in America when the war ended. Very true. Russia almost fell to the Blitzkreig strategy of storming your enemies and taking them out before they could mount a counter-assault. German Panzer units would have rolled over Moscow if not for the Russian millitia thinking ahead and digging a network of large and random trenches that the tanks simply rolled into and got stuck in. If not for that foresight, Russia may have fallen to Germany. Numbers mean little when faced with true strategy. 300 was based on an actual battle, Thermopoli I believe, in which 300 Spartans and Athenians stayed behind to defend a canyon against the invading Persian hordes, taking out somewhere around 10-20 thousand and allowing their remaining forces to go back for reinforcements. There were about 12 hundred Greeks from some other city there as well, but there were 300 hoplites, which were elite fighting men and the real reason why the persians could not come through. The first time they tried, the Persians had an army of a million men. The second time they tried, they had an army of 2 million. They only finally won because they found a pass through the mountains and were able to surround the Spartans. Yeah. A true display of a few highly trained men with the right strategy. We have how many men in the Middle East? With how many casualties compared to Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups?
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:02 pm
King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 Archduke wonderwaffle death angel712 There were Russians that wanted to fight with the Germans to liberate them from their oppressive communist government, until the SS started killing babies. If we started pushing into Russia, it's a near certainty that there would Russian civilians eager and willing to help us. And I mean a lot of Russian civilians. Not to mention the fact that any Russian soldier that surrenders would have better living conditions in our custody than they would on the front, meaning a lot of them would be surrendering. True, however we would have practically been up against human waves. Let me remind you that the German military came very very close to taking over Russia with less men than we would have been able to put in the fight, because of their superior leaders. Not only was our leadership just as good, but our weapons were superior to German weapons. And our industrial might was unmatched, two thirds of all vessels afloat on the ocean were made in America when the war ended. Very true. Russia almost fell to the Blitzkreig strategy of storming your enemies and taking them out before they could mount a counter-assault. German Panzer units would have rolled over Moscow if not for the Russian millitia thinking ahead and digging a network of large and random trenches that the tanks simply rolled into and got stuck in. If not for that foresight, Russia may have fallen to Germany. Numbers mean little when faced with true strategy. 300 was based on an actual battle, Thermopoli I believe, in which 300 Spartans and Athenians stayed behind to defend a canyon against the invading Persian hordes, taking out somewhere around 10-20 thousand and allowing their remaining forces to go back for reinforcements. There were about 12 hundred Greeks from some other city there as well, but there were 300 hoplites, which were elite fighting men and the real reason why the persians could not come through. The first time they tried, the Persians had an army of a million men. The second time they tried, they had an army of 2 million. They only finally won because they found a pass through the mountains and were able to surround the Spartans. Yeah. A true display of a few highly trained men with the right strategy. We have how many men in the Middle East? With how many casualties compared to Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups? Well, that's not strategy, it's superior technology. Don't really need strategy when you can blow up anything you want at any time and the enemy can't.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:11 pm
death angel712 King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 Let me remind you that the German military came very very close to taking over Russia with less men than we would have been able to put in the fight, because of their superior leaders. Not only was our leadership just as good, but our weapons were superior to German weapons. And our industrial might was unmatched, two thirds of all vessels afloat on the ocean were made in America when the war ended. Very true. Russia almost fell to the Blitzkreig strategy of storming your enemies and taking them out before they could mount a counter-assault. German Panzer units would have rolled over Moscow if not for the Russian millitia thinking ahead and digging a network of large and random trenches that the tanks simply rolled into and got stuck in. If not for that foresight, Russia may have fallen to Germany. Numbers mean little when faced with true strategy. 300 was based on an actual battle, Thermopoli I believe, in which 300 Spartans and Athenians stayed behind to defend a canyon against the invading Persian hordes, taking out somewhere around 10-20 thousand and allowing their remaining forces to go back for reinforcements. There were about 12 hundred Greeks from some other city there as well, but there were 300 hoplites, which were elite fighting men and the real reason why the persians could not come through. The first time they tried, the Persians had an army of a million men. The second time they tried, they had an army of 2 million. They only finally won because they found a pass through the mountains and were able to surround the Spartans. Yeah. A true display of a few highly trained men with the right strategy. We have how many men in the Middle East? With how many casualties compared to Al-Qaida and other terrorist groups? Well, that's not strategy, it's superior technology. Don't really need strategy when you can blow up anything you want at any time and the enemy can't. Well, it's the well-trained part that matters. We don't want our men blowing s**t up left and right over there. I.E.D.s are extremely dangerous. If they just blew them up, there's no telling where shrapnel would go. They need to be able to dissarm the bombs. Also, al-Qaida kinda focuses on blowing things up.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:46 am
Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war.
Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles.
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:20 pm
Archduke wonderwaffle Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war. Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles. Yes, Duke. And, no offense to you personally, but water happens to be wet.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:25 am
King of the Wooden Spoons Archduke wonderwaffle Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war. Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles. Yes, Duke. And, no offense to you personally, but water happens to be wet. Saying no offense doesn't take away any of the bitterness, friend. And water is wet? Where exactly did any of you say the Germans were probably the best trained of the war? All I see is comments on their tactics and leadership and how American standards were similar. Not solid statement.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:31 am
Archduke wonderwaffle King of the Wooden Spoons Archduke wonderwaffle Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war. Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles. Yes, Duke. And, no offense to you personally, but water happens to be wet. Saying no offense doesn't take away any of the bitterness, friend. And water is wet? Where exactly did any of you say the Germans were probably the best trained of the war? All I see is comments on their tactics and leadership and how American standards were similar. Not solid statement. I had never heard that the Germans were the best trained soldiers of the war. While I'm sure they were much better trained than the Russians, I'm also sure that our men were also very well trained. I would guess that our guys got about the same amount of training time as the German soldiers. Plus we had the rangers and the paratroopers, both of which were more elite than your average soldier. And while yes, the Germans did have paratroopers, they only used them once.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:15 pm
death angel712 Archduke wonderwaffle King of the Wooden Spoons Archduke wonderwaffle Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war. Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles. Yes, Duke. And, no offense to you personally, but water happens to be wet. Saying no offense doesn't take away any of the bitterness, friend. And water is wet? Where exactly did any of you say the Germans were probably the best trained of the war? All I see is comments on their tactics and leadership and how American standards were similar. Not solid statement. I had never heard that the Germans were the best trained soldiers of the war. While I'm sure they were much better trained than the Russians, I'm also sure that our men were also very well trained. I would guess that our guys got about the same amount of training time as the German soldiers. Plus we had the rangers and the paratroopers, both of which were more elite than your average soldier. And while yes, the Germans did have paratroopers, they only used them once. The Germans had actually planned to go into WWII, while the rest of the world was really hoping for peace. We were trying to push toward isolationism, and were almost entirely focussing out military's training in defense for a while. Russia's military was probably the closest in skill to Germany's, coming out of the revolution that brought the Soviets into power. And of course, Italy had been making plans with Germany, if not for quite as long.
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:09 pm
King of the Wooden Spoons death angel712 Archduke wonderwaffle King of the Wooden Spoons Archduke wonderwaffle Although the Germans brought Russia to it's knees, they were probably the best trained soldiers of the war. Also, a bit of information for you: the Taliban are loading their bombs with dirty HIV covered needles. Yes, Duke. And, no offense to you personally, but water happens to be wet. Saying no offense doesn't take away any of the bitterness, friend. And water is wet? Where exactly did any of you say the Germans were probably the best trained of the war? All I see is comments on their tactics and leadership and how American standards were similar. Not solid statement. I had never heard that the Germans were the best trained soldiers of the war. While I'm sure they were much better trained than the Russians, I'm also sure that our men were also very well trained. I would guess that our guys got about the same amount of training time as the German soldiers. Plus we had the rangers and the paratroopers, both of which were more elite than your average soldier. And while yes, the Germans did have paratroopers, they only used them once. The Germans had actually planned to go into WWII, while the rest of the world was really hoping for peace. We were trying to push toward isolationism, and were almost entirely focussing out military's training in defense for a while. Russia's military was probably the closest in skill to Germany's, coming out of the revolution that brought the Soviets into power. And of course, Italy had been making plans with Germany, if not for quite as long. Also, I read in a history book at school that the Hitler Youth had to learn how to survive, fight, do a double back flip and shoot at about 12-16. Through their training they were given a puppy, and they had to murder that puppy at the end of their training at the command of their officer to show a lack of remorse for anything and total obedience. These hitler youth were then sent off into the SS. Also, the Germans had fallschirmjager. Although not as good (but not by a long shot) as the Rangers or SAS, they were incredibly lethal.
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