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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:35 pm
Tonight I was watching a comedian who is Jewish, Andy Kidler (IIRC) and he was doing a joke on professions you wouldnt think a Jewish person does. His examples were a police officer and firemen.
When he said this, I was like "Israel is a jewish state, I'm sure they have firemen and police. Much of NYC is jewish, what about there?"
LOL, first, let me say that in my mind, most new yorkers are jewish XD Maybe its the accent, I dont know, but thats how I feel.
With this being said, what are your professions? What do you WANT to be? All of the lawyers and accountants I've met, none were Jewish. That seems to be a stereotype which I loathe.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:07 am
Lots of professions, one job.
* I majored in vocal music performance in college. Since deciding to embrace Jewish observance, I've learned that a Jewish woman should not sing before men because a Jewish man is not supposed to listen to a woman sing and watch her at the same time, and I'd have no way of knowing which men in the audience were or weren't Jewish other than singing primarily for Nazi groups. razz Frankly you cannot make a decent living singing for restricted (such as all-female, or no-Jewish-males) audiences. I still profess to be a singer, but now my singing is at home. Singing is no longer my career.
* Right now I'm spending most days in the pottery studio. I'm giving myself a self-led course of study in ceramics production, sort of like taking on schooling or apprenticeship but without the part where you have a teacher. I take it seriously, and sometimes I do get paid for my creations, so one could argue that this is my profession. It doesn't pay bills, but it's begun to pay for itself, at least -- if I sell 3 sets of feastware in a 2-month period, it pays for my studio time; if I sell 3 more, it pays for all the clay I use during that time.
* I've had lots of jobs, but none of them were my profession. They were just ways to pay the bills. Right now, my real 'job' doesn't pay bills at all, but it does have the effect of making my house a home. I'm a homemaker. Without me doing this job, consistently, every day, no matter how I feel, my home would become a messy and uninviting dump. When I do the job, my home is a place I'm happy to be, my bashert is happy to be, and people are happy to come and visit. So that's my job.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:12 pm
I aspire to be a Rabbi, which is a job that you seem to ONLY see Jews doing. What's up with that? xd
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:14 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew I aspire to be a Rabbi, which is a job that you seem to ONLY see Jews doing. What's up with that? xd You're crazy lol Thats a good choice of profession heart
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:09 pm
Astrophysicist, a psychologist and then maybe get smicha.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
Lumanny the Space Jew I aspire to be a Rabbi, which is a job that you seem to ONLY see Jews doing. What's up with that? xd The thing is, rabbis get paid very little, because their income comes from a congregation's good will contributions to the synagogue -- which often gives the rabbi a percentage of their donations, rather than a set figure. But rabbis (like all observant Jews) still have to live within walking distance of the synagogue, which often means paying a premium price for that location. As a consequence, unless they come from family money or their wife's got a great income, they often live at subsistence-level in a house they really shouldn't have to try to afford. Rabbis get little respect, in many communities. The more rabbis a community has, the more they see them as necessary (or there wouldn't be so many there, you see?), but the less each individual rabbi matters. Yet in communities that only have one rabbi, it's because they don't see a need for more, which means they're not giving great respect to the one that they do have. Outside the Jewish community, anything a rabbi does is suspect, because he's a visible member of a not-generally-respected minority group. If he is the least bit impatient after a long day of annoyances, "Jews sure are irritable." So he's got to be in a constant state of tense awareness of his actions and how they could impact him, his family, his entire People. He's got to spend all his time studying, supervising kosher butchers, acting as certification officers for kosher kitchens/facilities, answering halachic questions -- the man never gets a moment to himself. Especially if he cares about talking to his wife and giving attention to his scads and scads of children. In short -- and you have to picture a grandmother giving advice to her daughter about the daughter's young son -- "Sweetie, I'll give you it's a mitzvah... but it's no job for a Jewish boy!"
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:10 am
I always thought chandler or candle maker would be an appropriate profession for a Jew, considering how many candles the average Jew goes through in a month.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:19 am
Goodness knows -- and I realize that those candles that come in boxes of 100 are useful, convenient, and cheap, but MAN are they boring. Though I've no business complaining, as I don't use candles anyway. I prefer oil with a wick in it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:00 am
I've noticed that there's a very strong link to the arts and Judaism, and expression, especially in regards to knowledge and answering questions, seems to be a key part of It All(TM). For that reason, I think that writing, painting, sculpting and performing (granted, with some clauses, as Divash pointed out) are not only popular vocations for religious Jews, but also good ones.
About half the Jews I know are or have been involved in the clothing industry, from design to manufacture to retail. Not sure of the relevance of that, or whether it's an isolated case or not...
And medicine, of course. Oy, but who amongst us has never heard of a Jewish doctor? And I have two family members who're Jewish lawyers.
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:30 pm
Divash Lots of professions, one job. * I majored in vocal music performance in college. Since deciding to embrace Jewish observance, I've learned that a Jewish woman should not sing before men because a Jewish man is not supposed to listen to a woman sing and watch her at the same time, and I'd have no way of knowing which men in the audience were or weren't Jewish other than singing primarily for Nazi groups. razz Frankly you cannot make a decent living singing for restricted (such as all-female, or no-Jewish-males) audiences. I still profess to be a singer, but now my singing is at home. Singing is no longer my career. * Right now I'm spending most days in the pottery studio. I'm giving myself a self-led course of study in ceramics production, sort of like taking on schooling or apprenticeship but without the part where you have a teacher. I take it seriously, and sometimes I do get paid for my creations, so one could argue that this is my profession. It doesn't pay bills, but it's begun to pay for itself, at least -- if I sell 3 sets of feastware in a 2-month period, it pays for my studio time; if I sell 3 more, it pays for all the clay I use during that time. * I've had lots of jobs, but none of them were my profession. They were just ways to pay the bills. Right now, my real 'job' doesn't pay bills at all, but it does have the effect of making my house a home. I'm a homemaker. Without me doing this job, consistently, every day, no matter how I feel, my home would become a messy and uninviting dump. When I do the job, my home is a place I'm happy to be, my bashert is happy to be, and people are happy to come and visit. So that's my job. HEy Divash, it's been FOREVER since I've been on this board, but I couldn't help but notice your first bullet... aI am a vocal music ed major in college! We should talk some time. In relevance to this thread, I plan to become a cantor. It's been my aspiration since I was 6. Haha. Hello Guildies, I am an ancient member, how are you?!
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:03 pm
Lady Pocky In relevance to this thread, I plan to become a cantor. It's been my aspiration since I was 6. Haha. Hello Guildies, I am an ancient member, how are you?! A cantor, you mean a choirmaster? I'm somewhat new-ish, been a member for like...1 month? maybe 2? But hey anyway xD Behatzlacha-S I've noticed that there's a very strong link to the arts and Judaism, and expression, especially in regards to knowledge and answering questions, seems to be a key part of It All(TM). For that reason, I think that writing, painting, sculpting and performing (granted, with some clauses, as Divash pointed out) are not only popular vocations for religious Jews, but also good ones. About half the Jews I know are or have been involved in the clothing industry, from design to manufacture to retail. Not sure of the relevance of that, or whether it's an isolated case or not... And medicine, of course. Oy, but who amongst us has never heard of a Jewish doctor? And I have two family members who're Jewish lawyers. I agree, my grandmother lived in a time where people had clothes tailored for them for special occasions, she only had 1 person make her special dresses until the day he died, and he was Jewish. After that, she lamented and was forced to go to Uptons for pre-made dresses. All my doctors have been Indians (from India) but I can't complain, they've always taken care of me. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:25 pm
POCKY! Good to see you back again. smile Good luck in your ambitions. Maintain the thread of Jewish liturgical music, our traditions. Be strong, be strong, and we will strengthen one another.
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:00 pm
Call Me Apple Lady Pocky In relevance to this thread, I plan to become a cantor. It's been my aspiration since I was 6. Haha. Hello Guildies, I am an ancient member, how are you?! A cantor, you mean a choirmaster? I'm somewhat new-ish, been a member for like...1 month? maybe 2? But hey anyway xD Haha No Apple, I mean a Cantor, as in a Chazan, in a Synagogue. Divash POCKY! Good to see you back again. smile Good luck in your ambitions. Maintain the thread of Jewish liturgical music, our traditions. Be strong, be strong, and we will strengthen one another. And Divash, thanks for the warm welcome and welcome encouragement! I appreciate it. Are you running the guild now?
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:16 am
Lady Pocky Divash, thanks for the warm welcome and welcome encouragement! I appreciate it. Are you running the guild now? Nominally, but everyone's so well behaved and respectful that the guild is starting to run itself, which is a good thing. I was actually thinking of creating a guild mule to 'own' the guild, so that if/when Cindy comes back or I need to pass it to someone else, there won't be as much of a bookkeeping nightmare.
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