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LordNeuf
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:57 am


Caution : Spoiler Alert

If you intend to watch Toy Story 3 with fresh eyes and don't want to know the plotlines or plot twists, move to another thread.

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http://www.ugo.com/movies/toy-story-3-interpretations


Basically what is said in this article is that the toys in the movie find out what it is like to no longer be protected and placed in an environment where you are "played with until death." while the other well established toys are left to guard you from escaping while they are given better living conditions. While the broken toys are stripped of any remaining valuables and then incinerated.

You could also make a Marxist and Stalinist comparison to... oh wait, they did that too in the article.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:22 pm


I saw Toy Story 3 on opening day in 3D while I was visiting my relatives in the States. Sat in the front. cool

I was too busy crying at the sad movie to see the paralells at the time, but now that you mention it...
Hmmm.....
*Reads article*
Oh my Hashem, how did I not see all of that?
I love it; It is so dead-on.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:53 am


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Oy my it is so sad to compare a disney movie to that however understanding as it is. But it does not matter I was not going to let my future kids watch disney any way. XD
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:17 pm


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Oy my it is so sad to compare a disney movie to that however understanding as it is. But it does not matter I was not going to let my future kids watch disney any way. XD

rolleyes For the last time, people! Walt Disney was a horrible antisemite, but he is long dead! Michael Eisner is Jewish and he was head honcho at Disney WAY more recently than Walt. Just a few years ago, in fact. A Jew running Disney. Walt would hae hated it, but who cares what he thinks or thought or ever said about Jews? He's dead and the antisemtism of his company died with him.
You can't boycott a whole company just because its founder, whose philosiphy the current company shuns, was an antisemite.

Henry Ford was a terrible antisemite. He was even praised by Hitler himself. But that does not change the fact that Ford Cars are well-made and good for the US Economy. The Ford assembly line automobile construction system was revolutionary. If you buy a Ford, it's not like Henry Ford is going to get your money and cackle evilly and use it to hurt Jews. The man is dead!!!! Dead! And you can't just take your anger out on the nice non-antisemites who only work for Ford becausee they like well-made, sturdy, Product-of-USA cars.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:20 am


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Oy, I did not say I was not going to let them watch it because that.....I wont let them watch it because in ALMOST every movie there is something dark and evil in them. It is sad. I dont care what Walt was or what he belived.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:47 am


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Oy, I did not say I was not going to let them watch it because that.....I wont let them watch it because in ALMOST every movie there is something dark and evil in them. It is sad. I dont care what Walt was or what he belived.


Disney does not have subtly when it comes to the antagonist in a children's movie.

I mean it's a kids movie, the bad guy is supposed to be scary and dark and foreboding and of course, lose in the end, vanquished by the hero(es).

As for your future kids, don't shield them from the dark things in the world, that will only make them curious to discover them.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:20 am


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Well I do understand that but they dont have to learn it from Walt. There are plenty things from the Torah and the Tanach that teaches us of the evils of not only ourselves but others. When they are younger however they dont need to see all those evil characters from those shows. I will use the Torah and Tanach to teach them.,....and of course life when it comes around. smile
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:17 pm


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Well I do understand that but they dont have to learn it from Walt. There are plenty things from the Torah and the Tanach that teaches us of the evils of not only ourselves but others. When they are younger however they dont need to see all those evil characters from those shows. I will use the Torah and Tanach to teach them.,....and of course life when it comes around. smile

That's your call, but in my personal opinion Disney is very good about villains. There's no killing or anything in Disney's villains, and as a rule they are easily spotted bad guys to start with until, like in Toy Story 3, where the villain is hidden at first. And like the article says, Toy Story 3's villain is very realistic as is the whole Holocaust-esque plot, which is not only a good example of what could happen but also an example of what did happen. Toy Story 3's villain even gets a dark backstory to explain the villain's fall from innocence. Disney villains are in a wide range.
Every movie has a villain of some sort; Even 'Ernest goes to camp.' Disney just makes eerily good ones.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:20 pm


Just watched it - Bawww'ed my eyes out.

I have to be honest, i think the creators of that article were seriously reaching. If the actions in the movie felt out of place, I would have found it more believable.

Like toys going to the attic for storage.
A trash chute at a day care.

It was a good movie, and I'm not feeling purpose antisemitism in the movie. Although Wall-E WAS obviously about environmentalism.

I'd like to see what this creator can get from that movie with the monsters, lol.
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