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 Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:38 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo You're a human, do what you want instead of listening to these people. Because, obviously, they are going to tell you how to live by THEIR lifestyle and not yours. If you want to, you should be allowed to get married to a woman no matter what your religion states. um.. I beg to differ..
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs.What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. no, not at all.. after all.. your creator did make you.. if he never created you... you wouldn't be here.. it's really selfish to put your desires before Him.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:55 pm
rmcdra Shiori Miko xxEternallyBluexx No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink. ...I wish you the best of luck in your future marriage. confused So if you don't accept everything about them, what do you do when they do something you don't like? Tell them to change? Ask for divorce? cheap shot. By your logic a woman or man has no right to seek help or leave an abusive relationship. I don't think real love exists in that type of relationship. Sure it's debatable but I've seen what you're suggesting first hand and this is just what I've concluded from it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:02 pm
Shiori Miko rmcdra Shiori Miko xxEternallyBluexx No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink. ...I wish you the best of luck in your future marriage. confused So if you don't accept everything about them, what do you do when they do something you don't like? Tell them to change? Ask for divorce? cheap shot. By your logic a woman or man has no right to seek help or leave an abusive relationship. I don't think real love exists in that type of relationship. Sure it's debatable but I've seen what you're suggesting first hand and this is just what I've concluded from it. So now you are pulling a No True Scotsman now. Since s/he has love for their partner then they have no right to leave or seek help by your comment. Either reword your remark to Blue or drop it, because in its current state it's quite "fairy tale-ish" at best and at worse quite horrendous.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:46 pm
rmcdra Shiori Miko rmcdra Shiori Miko xxEternallyBluexx No! The point of God being God is that He's greater then you. It undermines the whole thing if you just decide to disobey God on a whim. * I don't know much about Allah, but even so hijabgirl is a believer of Islam. If she believes Allah's loves her, and if she loves Allah, she should obey him. And love does not mean you accept everything about a person. If Allah defines homosexuality as evil, then helping hijabgirl move past it would be the loving thing to do, just like if I loved an alcoholic I'd do my best to help them stay away from drink. ...I wish you the best of luck in your future marriage. confused So if you don't accept everything about them, what do you do when they do something you don't like? Tell them to change? Ask for divorce? cheap shot. By your logic a woman or man has no right to seek help or leave an abusive relationship. I don't think real love exists in that type of relationship. Sure it's debatable but I've seen what you're suggesting first hand and this is just what I've concluded from it. So now you are pulling a No True Scotsman now. Since s/he has love for their partner then they have no right to leave or seek help by your comment. Either reword your remark to Blue or drop it, because in its current state it's quite "fairy tale-ish" at best and at worse quite horrendous. The "love" in an abusive relationship may be called love but I don't believe that's what it is. It may be dependancy on the abuser, it could be fear of being alone, it could be many things but it's still called love.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:19 pm
Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Are you this certain person? Following in her shoes?
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs. What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. no, not at all.. after all.. your creator did make you.. if he never created you... you wouldn't be here.. it's really selfish to put your desires before Him. Ya, he gave you the feelings so that you can feel something duh, and not be a complete statue. But if he forbids you of being with the same sex then, you shouldn't go against His Will and do it anyway. I'm not saying to be perfect, but it's your decision you do what you want. We're humans just like you, why do you need us to make the decision of what you should do. You're gonna end up doing what you want anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:41 pm
Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo Bharatiyaa_ larki Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo Are you this certain person? Following in her shoes?
Are you, or are you just someone else giving their religious opinion?
This person most focus more on her desires than her religion. I will be damned if she can't do what she wants to because of her beliefs. What's the point of having a belief then? If you pick and choose the parts you want to follow, you might as well quit following that religion. Whatever belief you hold should be sacred to you, and if you can't treat it as such, then, at least I think, that makes you a really wishy-washy follower. no, not at all.. after all.. your creator did make you.. if he never created you... you wouldn't be here.. it's really selfish to put your desires before Him. Ya, he gave you the feelings so that you can feel something duh, and not be a complete statue. But if he forbids you of being with the same sex then, you shouldn't go against His Will and do it anyway. I'm not saying to be perfect, but it's your decision you do what you want. We're humans just like you, why do you need us to make the decision of what you should do. You're gonna end up doing what you want anyway.
and yes, people shouldn't follow what other people tell them. But that's exactly what you and I are both doing at this very minute.
Although, I lack the spiritual side of this argument since I don't believe in such.
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:13 pm
when it comes to this, i always would say, just read your scriptures, and decide for yourself how you interpret the laws it gives concerning marriage or sexuality. of course, use logic and reasoning, but that's obvious. just don't take a preachers word for it, read it yourself and find out.
i've found that in christianity at least, despite all this talk about how "the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, and that you'll go to hell for it" is all bullshit that the preachers spew. if you actually READ the damn holy book, you'd see it doesn't say that at all. for crying out loud, the church-leaders have realy been grasping at straws to condemn gay marriage and homosexuality....
marriage laws have usually been more of a cultural thing than a religious thing, despite being detailed so (apparrently) thoroughly in religions. thing is, different nations and cultures will base their entire legislations on widely varying intrpretations of the same religion across teh world, and then claim that the others are practicing the wrong religion based on the nations' policies! it's ******** rediculous! stressed
all i gotta say is, read the danged books. the answer is in their, so find it. alot easier said then done when talking about the Qu'ran, i've come to understand, but yeh. ._.
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:08 pm
Homosexuality is not allowed in Islam.
It's very clear in the Qur'an and hadith.
So you have two choice... (and remember this life is short, and your purpose is to please Allah)
1 - Don't marry a woman (which means obeying your creator)
2 - Marrying a woman (which means disobeying your creator)
Allah didn't make rules for us to pick and choose the ones we like.
And this life is meant to be a TEST so of course it will be hard!!
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:47 am
I'm very sorry to protest, honey.
Honestly, I got nothing on this sexuality stuff-not supporting but I know I'm not one to judge.
Bless or condemn, not what I'm oblidged to give.
Heck, this thing had been going on wayyy back-don't get me started.
I stick to a very basic principle, really.
(It'll take a lot more but since I'm basically talking in general...)
"If Adam didn't need Eve, then Eve wouldn't have been created.
Eve needs Adam, because she was created from one of Adam's rib."
We were created to be together, men and women.
I'm a helpless romantic and a sucker at romance stories but I still stick to this fact.
We get confused and tempted at times (I'm an animanga fan, so you know I know a lotta stuff) but then again, if it happens to me, I'd reasoned myself with that again.
I'm definitely no saint but I hope you'll think about it.
P/S; This principle works against sexist people as well. 0.< And helps tone down my HUGE egoistical, competitive self.
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