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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:47 pm


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Dictionary.com says for evil:
–adjective
1.) Morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2.) Harmful; injurious: evil laws.
3.) Characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.
4.) Due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.
5.) Marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.

Dictionary.com says for depraved:
–adjective
Corrupt, wicked, or perverted.


Is that it?
Is that the true and complete definition of evil?
Is this what it means to be deprived?
What makes something evil and someone depraved anyway?
What is evil?
What's truly the lesser of two, or more, evils?

These are some questions my class was asked at the beginning of Trimester, when Infamous and Notorious began in all the history classes.
For about a week or two we circled around this thought of 'evil' and the idea of certain people being 'depraved' as the entire class is built up on the deeds done in history and by man that have been labeled as such.
What I want you, the eager and possibly hot headed debater is this: You're own answers to some of these following situations, and decide if they're evil and deprived, or not.

1.) A drug addict mother fatally drops her young child while high on cocaine.
2.) A man shoots another man on the street in cold blood, with no reason.
3.) Someone commits murder just to see if they could get away with it.
4.) Someone burglarizes into a home and purposely destroys pieces or property within the home which held sentimental value to the owner, knowing full well how much the owner treasured the items.
5.) After assaulting the victim, the perpetrator finishes their beating by defecating on the victim.
6.) Changing a person's appearance psychically by scarring them on the face, so that the victim will always see the scar, and be reminded of the attack.

Keep in mind when you are giving your opinion for these situations, do not go into detail that if this and this were to happen then it would be this.
Just think of the act alone with no outside factors.


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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:00 pm


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1.) A drug addict mother fatally drops her young child while high on cocaine.
I do not fully blame the mother. While it was her choice to take the drug and go under such high influences that she ended up dropping her baby I don't think she's an 'evil' or 'depraved' person. We all do stupid things when we're both in and out of our minds. I'm not excusing her actions, just not agreeing with treating it so harshly. We all do things we regret. It would be more 'evil' if she had killed the baby while holding her state of mind.
2.) A man shoots another man on the street in cold blood, with no reason.
This one is definitely a depraved case, but not an evil case. Not in my eyes. It's depraved because the shooter had no reason to do it, other than just because. If he were evil, I think more would have been done.
3.) Someone commits murder just to see if they could get away with it.
Now this is EXTREMELY depraved. We all get curious, but even an animal knows where not to stick it's nose, even if it's never experienced the pain of doing so. To kill someone just to see what it's like, and to see if they can escape is sickening.
4.) Someone burglarizes into a home and purposely destroys pieces or property within the home which held sentimental value to the owner, knowing full well how much the owner treasured the items.
This in my eyes is an act of evil by depravity. I hold things in my house with my parents that hold sentimental value. To have these items would break my heart, and enrage me. Especially if I found out the person did it because they knew I held sentimental value towards the items they destroyed. To ruin something someone loves is unforgivable.
5.) After assaulting the victim, the perpetrator finishes their beating by defecating on the victim.
This is... Just gross. Depraved, yes. Evil, not really. We all do things that are down right gross, but this does not make us an evil person.
6.) Changing a person's appearance psychically by scarring them on the face, so that the victim will always see the scar, and be reminded of the attack.
This is an act of evil. To purposely alter another's appearance so they will be cursed into remembering the attack upon them is one of the cruelest things that can be done to them. To live with the burden of remembering what happened to them is unbearably wrong.


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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:36 pm


i'm a bit short on time for now, so i'll make another post later responding to the question...
but considering the context you're using, i suspect you meant 'depraved' and not 'deprived' as it is more commonly the term used for these types of cases.

dictionary.com

de·praved
   /dɪˈpreɪvd/ [dih-preyvd]
–adjective
corrupt, wicked, or perverted.

Origin:
1585–95; deprave + -ed2

—Related forms
de·praved·ly  /dɪˈpreɪvdli, -ˈpreɪvɪd-/ [dih-preyvd-lee, -prey-vid-] , adverb
de·praved·ness, noun
non·de·praved, adjective
self-de·praved, adjective
un·de·praved, adjective

—Can be confused:  depraved, deprived.

—Synonyms
evil, sinful, debased, reprobate, degenerate; dissolute, profligate; licentious, lewd. See immoral.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:18 pm


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i'm a bit short on time for now, so i'll make another post later responding to the question...
but considering the context you're using, i suspect you meant 'depraved' and not 'deprived' as it is more commonly the term used for these types of cases.

dictionary.com

de·praved
   /dɪˈpreɪvd/ [dih-preyvd]
–adjective
corrupt, wicked, or perverted.

Origin:
1585–95; deprave + -ed2

—Related forms
de·praved·ly  /dɪˈpreɪvdli, -ˈpreɪvɪd-/ [dih-preyvd-lee, -prey-vid-] , adverb
de·praved·ness, noun
non·de·praved, adjective
self-de·praved, adjective
un·de·praved, adjective

—Can be confused:  depraved, deprived.

—Synonyms
evil, sinful, debased, reprobate, degenerate; dissolute, profligate; licentious, lewd. See immoral.
Thank you for that catch.
I remembered deprived for some reason, not depraved. . .

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