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 Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:09 am
Yes, I do. neutral
It's like a form of prayer, except with more work and your input involved.
Why? Should that be a problem?
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:37 am
TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny Christianity along with all the other religions were created to control the masses. There is nothing true about religion. yea but uh... some of the stories are true. Enlighten me. the bible takes stories from ancient religions and re-tells them. from adam and eve to noah's ark. i believe there is truth to the symbolic story of adam and eve, and the great flood did occur, whether remotely or world wide. also, the stories of Moses, Abraham, king solomon ETC., those are all real people and those events really happened. there is more to wicca than spells you know, but i can't speak for her. All of them are stories which never really happened, they all are taken from a more ancient culture (Babylonian, Assyrian, Mesopotamian etc.) and well adjusted to the time they were told in. Especially the flood, if you've read the Epic of Gilgamesh you will know that the Noah flood is a cheap rip off of the flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh. There is no historical evidence whatsoever that any of the mentioned people above ever lived. Except for Solomon perhaps he could have been a real person, but Moses? Splitting the Red Sea in two? How logical is that? Why can't we split the sea in two anymore?
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:40 am
Sai Kaitou X Yes, I do. neutral
It's like a form of prayer, except with more work and your input involved.
Why? Should that be a problem? While I absolutely respect your opinion and belief on this matter, I would have to disagree with it however. Any good reason for believing in spells, I'm curios?
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 12:18 pm
Fiddle Playing Johnny While I absolutely respect your opinion and belief on this matter, I would have to disagree with it however. Any good reason for believing in spells, I'm curios? Because 9 out of 10 times, they've worked for me.
I also believe that humans are much more potent in energy than we give ourselves credit for.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:07 am
Sai Kaitou X Fiddle Playing Johnny While I absolutely respect your opinion and belief on this matter, I would have to disagree with it however. Any good reason for believing in spells, I'm curios? Because 9 out of 10 times, they've worked for me.
I also believe that humans are much more potent in energy than we give ourselves credit for. And what types of spells do you use?
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:43 pm
Fiddle Playing Johnny And what types of spells do you use? Usually I use spells to help the people around me, so the type can vary.
Though I have used some for myself on occasion.
There's also a few rituals you can do to celebrate the Sabbats.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:10 am
Sai Kaitou X Fiddle Playing Johnny And what types of spells do you use? Usually I use spells to help the people around me, so the type can vary.
Though I have used some for myself on occasion.
There's also a few rituals you can do to celebrate the Sabbats. If you don't mind me asking, how do you cast a spell?
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:53 pm
Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny Christianity along with all the other religions were created to control the masses. There is nothing true about religion. yea but uh... some of the stories are true. Enlighten me. the bible takes stories from ancient religions and re-tells them. from adam and eve to noah's ark. i believe there is truth to the symbolic story of adam and eve, and the great flood did occur, whether remotely or world wide. also, the stories of Moses, Abraham, king solomon ETC., those are all real people and those events really happened. there is more to wicca than spells you know, but i can't speak for her. All of them are stories which never really happened, they all are taken from a more ancient culture (Babylonian, Assyrian, Mesopotamian etc.) and well adjusted to the time they were told in. Especially the flood, if you've read the Epic of Gilgamesh you will know that the Noah flood is a cheap rip off of the flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh. There is no historical evidence whatsoever that any of the mentioned people above ever lived. Except for Solomon perhaps he could have been a real person, but Moses? Splitting the Red Sea in two? How logical is that? Why can't we split the sea in two anymore? "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." don't get me wrong, i don't believe in the "magical miracles" performed by the people in the bible, but perhaps there are reasons for them occurring. I might as well make it clear to you now, that I'm an alien believer and I believe aliens took part in these stories as the "gods". But going back to historical evidence, have you even researched these things before claiming none of these people existed? And for the record, I've read plenty of the ancient sumerian texts. What makes you think the first civilization with writing would write down a bunch of FAKE bed time stories? It's far more logical to think they were recording their history as told to them from their ancestors so it would not be easily lost. They have scientifically proven the location of Moses' red sea crossing and the mountain where the rock was split open and water came out. The location was marked by pillars on either side by king solomon as a memorial. The location itself is not across the red sea, but across a gulf in the red sea, at Nuweiba. They have done scans of the land under the water that explained how it was done. The land mass between Nuweiba and the other side is very high like an underwater land bridge, and on either side it is deep ocean floor. Thus, the water must have simply gone down, exposing this land bridge for them to walk across, and then rose again to stop the army. They have also explored the ocean floor around this area and found many chariot cart wheels, horse bones, human bones and body of chariots. They have not yet gone into the even deeper parts, where they are sure there are more. Here are a few links with some of this information, you can research for more information if you please. I didn't read these pages, just looked at the pictures. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb971126.htm http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168 the real mount sinai http://www.arkdiscovery.com/mt__sinai_found.htm ok and as for other people of the old testament, there has been proof of some of their existences (not everyone). http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/archeology.htm even some of their tombs have been found. as for the great flood, I believe it happened, whether global or remotely i'm not entirely sure. there is great evidence of water damage on the Sphinx near the pyramids of giza, also read here http://www.allaboutcreation.org/great-flood-faq.htm . there are many many many other religions all around the world that tell the SAME story of a great flood. though not all of them include the saving of the animals. it's my personal belief that this event did happen, and that aliens helped in saving the specimens of earth. heh, that reminds me of the film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" how the aliens collected all the species of earth to save for the re-population afterward. I'll leave it at this, as I feel I'm putting a lot of effort into this and it's not going to be appreciated lol.
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:32 am
TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny Christianity along with all the other religions were created to control the masses. There is nothing true about religion. yea but uh... some of the stories are true. Enlighten me. the bible takes stories from ancient religions and re-tells them. from adam and eve to noah's ark. i believe there is truth to the symbolic story of adam and eve, and the great flood did occur, whether remotely or world wide. also, the stories of Moses, Abraham, king solomon ETC., those are all real people and those events really happened. there is more to wicca than spells you know, but i can't speak for her. All of them are stories which never really happened, they all are taken from a more ancient culture (Babylonian, Assyrian, Mesopotamian etc.) and well adjusted to the time they were told in. Especially the flood, if you've read the Epic of Gilgamesh you will know that the Noah flood is a cheap rip off of the flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh. There is no historical evidence whatsoever that any of the mentioned people above ever lived. Except for Solomon perhaps he could have been a real person, but Moses? Splitting the Red Sea in two? How logical is that? Why can't we split the sea in two anymore? "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." don't get me wrong, i don't believe in the "magical miracles" performed by the people in the bible, but perhaps there are reasons for them occurring. I might as well make it clear to you now, that I'm an alien believer and I believe aliens took part in these stories as the "gods". But going back to historical evidence, have you even researched these things before claiming none of these people existed? And for the record, I've read plenty of the ancient sumerian texts. What makes you think the first civilization with writing would write down a bunch of FAKE bed time stories? It's far more logical to think they were recording their history as told to them from their ancestors so it would not be easily lost. They have scientifically proven the location of Moses' red sea crossing and the mountain where the rock was split open and water came out. The location was marked by pillars on either side by king solomon as a memorial. The location itself is not across the red sea, but across a gulf in the red sea, at Nuweiba. They have done scans of the land under the water that explained how it was done. The land mass between Nuweiba and the other side is very high like an underwater land bridge, and on either side it is deep ocean floor. Thus, the water must have simply gone down, exposing this land bridge for them to walk across, and then rose again to stop the army. They have also explored the ocean floor around this area and found many chariot cart wheels, horse bones, human bones and body of chariots. They have not yet gone into the even deeper parts, where they are sure there are more. Here are a few links with some of this information, you can research for more information if you please. I didn't read these pages, just looked at the pictures. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb971126.htm http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168 the real mount sinai http://www.arkdiscovery.com/mt__sinai_found.htm ok and as for other people of the old testament, there has been proof of some of their existences (not everyone). http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/archeology.htm even some of their tombs have been found. as for the great flood, I believe it happened, whether global or remotely i'm not entirely sure. there is great evidence of water damage on the Sphinx near the pyramids of giza, also read here http://www.allaboutcreation.org/great-flood-faq.htm . there are many many many other religions all around the world that tell the SAME story of a great flood. though not all of them include the saving of the animals. it's my personal belief that this event did happen, and that aliens helped in saving the specimens of earth. heh, that reminds me of the film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" how the aliens collected all the species of earth to save for the re-population afterward. I'll leave it at this, as I feel I'm putting a lot of effort into this and it's not going to be appreciated lol. I believe in aliens too. It's too human to say that we are alone in the universe. Onwards... While I do appreciate your effort, I have to say that all of those links (especially the Red Sea crossing one) are part of what archeologists call pseudo-archeology or false archeology without science to verify the hypothetical claims. It's clearly that it is just like what today's people do with the Quran or other book they don't understand, they twist the cryptic writings to match their own way of thinking, or like Charles Manson with Helter Skelter and the other Beatles songs. Just because they found a chariot wheel in the Red Sea (IF they really actually did) it doesn't mean that this really occurred. It's like finding a coin in a wishing fountain. If this what you say was real and scientifically approved, it would've been all around the news, believe me.
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:09 pm
Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay Fiddle Playing Johnny TrutherMay the bible takes stories from ancient religions and re-tells them. from adam and eve to noah's ark. i believe there is truth to the symbolic story of adam and eve, and the great flood did occur, whether remotely or world wide. also, the stories of Moses, Abraham, king solomon ETC., those are all real people and those events really happened. there is more to wicca than spells you know, but i can't speak for her. All of them are stories which never really happened, they all are taken from a more ancient culture (Babylonian, Assyrian, Mesopotamian etc.) and well adjusted to the time they were told in. Especially the flood, if you've read the Epic of Gilgamesh you will know that the Noah flood is a cheap rip off of the flood from the Epic of Gilgamesh. There is no historical evidence whatsoever that any of the mentioned people above ever lived. Except for Solomon perhaps he could have been a real person, but Moses? Splitting the Red Sea in two? How logical is that? Why can't we split the sea in two anymore? "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." don't get me wrong, i don't believe in the "magical miracles" performed by the people in the bible, but perhaps there are reasons for them occurring. I might as well make it clear to you now, that I'm an alien believer and I believe aliens took part in these stories as the "gods". But going back to historical evidence, have you even researched these things before claiming none of these people existed? And for the record, I've read plenty of the ancient sumerian texts. What makes you think the first civilization with writing would write down a bunch of FAKE bed time stories? It's far more logical to think they were recording their history as told to them from their ancestors so it would not be easily lost. They have scientifically proven the location of Moses' red sea crossing and the mountain where the rock was split open and water came out. The location was marked by pillars on either side by king solomon as a memorial. The location itself is not across the red sea, but across a gulf in the red sea, at Nuweiba. They have done scans of the land under the water that explained how it was done. The land mass between Nuweiba and the other side is very high like an underwater land bridge, and on either side it is deep ocean floor. Thus, the water must have simply gone down, exposing this land bridge for them to walk across, and then rose again to stop the army. They have also explored the ocean floor around this area and found many chariot cart wheels, horse bones, human bones and body of chariots. They have not yet gone into the even deeper parts, where they are sure there are more. Here are a few links with some of this information, you can research for more information if you please. I didn't read these pages, just looked at the pictures. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb971126.htm http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168 the real mount sinai http://www.arkdiscovery.com/mt__sinai_found.htm ok and as for other people of the old testament, there has been proof of some of their existences (not everyone). http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/archeology.htm even some of their tombs have been found. as for the great flood, I believe it happened, whether global or remotely i'm not entirely sure. there is great evidence of water damage on the Sphinx near the pyramids of giza, also read here http://www.allaboutcreation.org/great-flood-faq.htm . there are many many many other religions all around the world that tell the SAME story of a great flood. though not all of them include the saving of the animals. it's my personal belief that this event did happen, and that aliens helped in saving the specimens of earth. heh, that reminds me of the film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" how the aliens collected all the species of earth to save for the re-population afterward. I'll leave it at this, as I feel I'm putting a lot of effort into this and it's not going to be appreciated lol. I believe in aliens too. It's too human to say that we are alone in the universe. Onwards... While I do appreciate your effort, I have to say that all of those links (especially the Red Sea crossing one) are part of what archeologists call pseudo-archeology or false archeology without science to verify the hypothetical claims. It's clearly that it is just like what today's people do with the Quran or other book they don't understand, they twist the cryptic writings to match their own way of thinking, or like Charles Manson with Helter Skelter and the other Beatles songs. Just because they found a chariot wheel in the Red Sea (IF they really actually did) it doesn't mean that this really occurred. It's like finding a coin in a wishing fountain. If this what you say was real and scientifically approved, it would've been all around the news, believe me. well it is wide spread around the christian news. at the very least, this location of crossing is plausible. I wont dismiss it so quickly.
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:01 am
Of course around Christian news, they will publicize whatever material that puts them in control, including pseudo-archeology. Anyway, it's really a matter of choice you can believe in whatever you want and so can I, but in my opinion that myth is busted not plausible. smile I still didn't get my answer about how to cast a spell. Why can't I cast a spell?
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:02 pm
All will be as it will be.
I've caught up with all the posts.
I don't see the Epic of Gilgamesh as a rip off of noah or vice versa...i see them, and other stories cultures have in common of retellings of the stories in different cultures.
There is evidence of that the waters covered the earth wheter before land erupted or by flooding. One example, I live in the mountains and there is a place i can hike to that has GIANT snail shell fossils...maybe 4 ft diam. How did they get there if the earth wasn't at one time covered in water?
Throughout all the retellings handed down through all our ancestors they didn't have the way to communicate scientific terms like evoloution, aliens, advanced tehnology and such and therefore used what they had in thier own language. An example of this, possibly Ezekials wheel within the wheel.
The Bible is not a religion. I am a strong opponent against religion, however I am a person of faith.
Religion kills.
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