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Bruce-Ganked-Lee
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:58 am


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Ok, so I took some time to ask my sister how everything at the old dojang was and how her training was going. I also inquired as to whether or not they still practice the footwork that my other old instructor used to have us work on. Well, apparently, they've been drilling and utilizing it(effectively) in tourneys. Now, you ask "What the ******** are you talking about and why the hell is this relevent?"....well the footwork I'm referring to is(I believe) kali/arnis influenced, and when I was still there, was trained accordingly:

We got two arnis sticks(and I mean like straight from P.I. arnis sticks), placed them on the mat in a "V" shape, with the point towards us, and commensed to step diagonally along one side, making sure the back foot didn't go past the "V"'s point. We'd then slide the front foot back, still making sure the other foot didn't go past the point, and commense to make a diagonal step on the other side of the "V"....and then repeat the same steps...again...and again.

Now, does this read familiar to you FMA guys at all? The reason I believe it is kali influenced footwork is because of the fact that our instructor(not head master....but the instructor, of which he and his wife are managers of the studio, so technically...they're my sabom's bosses) had started to introduce kali to us at the time I was still training....and even though he barely shows up at the dojang anymore, my sabom and him are still real tight(sabom and he are drinking buddies....and I believe sabom is also a tennant of theirs), so I'd assume that they still train with eachother outside the dojang. Also, I've seen the whole kali stick set-up that I described above in several texts regarding FMA and kali/arnis in general.

Again, you may ask how it is relevent to WTF TKD heading in a positive direction in general. It has to do with the fact that the dojang has(apparently) gotten quite the reputation at tournaments for having both good/crazy fighters as well as very respectable and well behaved students(i.e. while the S. Korean anthem is being sung, the students will quell any disrespectful talking or laughter that is being exhibited by students of other dojangs). If this reputation builds even more and the dojang produces more and more highly skilled tournament fighters who utilize the kali influenced footwork, then its a possibility that they might set a certain training standard that other local dojangs will have to meet. If this happens and it spreads through-out, well....you know where I'm going with this.

Of course, this is not to say that it'll most definately make the art stronger in the sense of competing FULL contact, but it'll still set a different mindset about crosstraining in other arts to gain effectiveness.


UPDATED 12-29-05
I was mistaken on the footwork, as you will see on the third post.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:24 am


Here's hopin the wisdom spreads..
Quite a few of the TKD places I've trained at have taught some form of combat footwork, but its never been how would you say it, a curricular activity? Its been borrowed from elsewhere, and taught as that particular instructor has recognised its effectivesness/importance. I've trained in that 45 degree stepping as you describe it at two separate tkd schools, but using marks on the floor instead of sticks. I didn't realise it was filipino tho

DarklingGlory
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Bruce-Ganked-Lee
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:37 am


BAM! And my arse has been struck with reality. I asked my sister exactly the footwork they do, now....and it is NOT the footwork I mentioned. So with that I must say.....

I WAS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG ABOUT THE FOOTWORK. But at the same time, my old sabom still endorses crosstraining and I plan to work with my sister with the footwork that he's taught her as well as the footwork that our other instructor taught us(which is what I described in the first post).
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:53 am


DarklingGlory
Here's hopin the wisdom spreads..
Quite a few of the TKD places I've trained at have taught some form of combat footwork, but its never been how would you say it, a curricular activity? Its been borrowed from elsewhere, and taught as that particular instructor has recognised its effectivesness/importance. I've trained in that 45 degree stepping as you describe it at two separate tkd schools, but using marks on the floor instead of sticks. I didn't realise it was filipino tho


Hey, whatever works. They don't use the stick thing there anymore...only when the other instructor is there.

To relieve some confusion, explanations are in order:


There were/are two head instructors at my old dojang. One is the main master(Dae Song Lee, 4th dan) and the other is an instructor(Robert "Bob" Bersamira, 1st dan). Instructor Bob and his wife manage the studio(i.e. handle the finances and such). They all are very tight with eachother and are pretty much like family to eachother(Master Lee and instructor Bob are drinkin' buddies).

Master Lee has a WTF Tae Kwon Do(you already know the rank) and Judo(2nd dan, I believe) background. Instructor Bob also comes from WTF TKD, but also tries to incorparate all sorts of outside arts into training(when he's actually there)....hence where the arnis footwork comes in. For a while when I was still there, he even had us practice a bit with the arnis sticks(just basic steps and positioning...of which look totally different from the Korean style that my sister is learning now) every once in a while.


Also, I like big donkey p***s.

Bruce-Ganked-Lee
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