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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:54 am
This is going to sound stupid, but I have no one else to ask where HE can't see. A few months ago I dumped my boyfriend, and took him back twice. He says I hurt him alot, but it wasn't exactly on purpose you know? Now he's being mean to me and taking his 'revenge' while still saying he loves me. He says it's karma and that's how it works. But if he's hurting me on purpose that's not exactly Karma is it? And it doesn't excuse his behaviour does it? Especially when I feel bad enough, I've started to completely hate myself again, which I understand isn't really a good thing for someone who's becoming increasingly interested in Buddhsim. How am I supposed to love anyone else when I hate myself so much? So is he being unacceptable or am I just crazy?
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:09 am
No... If you're consciously making a decision, especially if it's negative, then you're not actually serving as karma. You're making it, of course -- you're in control of it -- but that's it. I guess it's possible for people to subconsciously end up doing that... But in this situation, his actions are of his own volition -- he's just being a jerk.
There's no reason for you to hate yourself. Please don't.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:55 pm
sweatdrop The only reason I ask here is because he's supposedly a toaist/buddhist, but in serving his revenge and writing it off as karma, isn't he creating bad karma of his own? This is so confusing. gonk
Retreats to room and locks herself in, banishing all confusing thoughts, and never comes out againt. gonk
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:14 pm
AssiaYomomato This is going to sound stupid, but I have no one else to ask where HE can't see. A few months ago I dumped my boyfriend, and took him back twice. He says I hurt him alot, but it wasn't exactly on purpose you know? Now he's being mean to me and taking his 'revenge' while still saying he loves me. He says it's karma and that's how it works. But if he's hurting me on purpose that's not exactly Karma is it? And it doesn't excuse his behaviour does it? Especially when I feel bad enough, I've started to completely hate myself again, which I understand isn't really a good thing for someone who's becoming increasingly interested in Buddhsim. How am I supposed to love anyone else when I hate myself so much? So is he being unacceptable or am I just crazy? Well it can be called karma in the sense that he is creating bad karma for himself. But if he is supposedly a Taoist/Buddhist, then why does he intentionally be mean to you? The thing is you are not at fault, if he acts of his own freewill and is intentionally being mean to you then it is his fault. What you should do is to confront him about this issue and see how he truely feels. If you find that he is intentional in his hurting action, then he isn't being a very good person or Buddhist(escpecially when he tries to put it off as your mistake somehow). With Buddhism you are supposed to learn to love and be kind to everyone, which does mean your boyfirend as well. However that does not mean that you have to stay with him. So when you speak to him, don't think it is your fault or even to put all the blame on him, just be sincere, honest, and kind. If you find out for the worst about him, you don't have to stay with him. Well that my 2 cents.
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Akanishi Makoto Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:30 pm
AssiaYomomato This is going to sound stupid, but I have no one else to ask where HE can't see. A few months ago I dumped my boyfriend, and took him back twice. He says I hurt him alot, but it wasn't exactly on purpose you know? This depends on exactly what he means, and exactly how you hurt him. Regardless, however, this is your own karma, which you should try to understand before it even arises. There is a story that I remember being told, about a monk, who was sitting in meditation. As he sat there, another monk came along, and started spitting on him (weird, I know). The meditating monk said to him, "Even though you keep spitting on me, I will not get angry." He knew the other monk was creating bad karma, but did not fall into the trap himself. Why am I saying this? Because no matter what other people do to you, your actions are your own responsibility. Quote: Now he's being mean to me and taking his 'revenge' while still saying he loves me. He says it's karma and that's how it works. But if he's hurting me on purpose that's not exactly Karma is it? And it doesn't excuse his behaviour does it? Especially when I feel bad enough, I've started to completely hate myself again, which I understand isn't really a good thing for someone who's becoming increasingly interested in Buddhsim. How am I supposed to love anyone else when I hate myself so much? So is he being unacceptable or am I just crazy? No, that's not karma. Well, it is, but not the fruits of your karma. He is creating his own bad karma, and he will reap his rewards when the time comes. If you did create any bad karma, just live it out with an accepting and non-judgemental heart. Good or Bad, it doesn't really matter. There is no "good" or "bad". And if he makes you feel this way, and you truly do hate yourself when he starts to be mean to you, then perhaps you'd be best distancing yourself from him until he realizes his mistakes, and his karma.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:47 pm
*shakes head* Tell your boyfriend to read the Dhammapada. Please.
Either that, or write these verses down for him in a note.
" (v1)``He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,'' in those who harbour such thoughts hatred is not appeased. (v2)``He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,'' in those who do not harbour such thoughts hatred is appeased. (v3)Hate is not overcome by hate; by Love (Metta) alone is hate appeased. This is an eternal law. (v4)The others know not that in this quarrel we perish; those of them who realise it, have their quarrels calmed thereby. "
Karma is indirect. Not direct.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:04 pm
Thank you! You've all been a huge help sweatdrop I thought I was right, but I wanted to make sure. I know my actions are my responsibilty, but certainly he can't punish me and say it's my 'bad karma'.
To Weliviell- I showed him -v3)Hate is not overcome by hate; by Love (Metta) alone is hate appeased. This is an eternal law.- That, but he said it's a load of crap. He says Buddhism is a load of crap, and then argued with me why it is. (Because now he's just a 'toaist'.) And then he called me shallow because I'm interested in Buddhism, when I used to be in Islam, and my changing (more blending the two though) my mind is me being shallow. Bleh, I give up. crying
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:10 pm
AssiaYomomato Thank you! You've all been a huge help sweatdrop I thought I was right, but I wanted to make sure. I know my actions are my responsibilty, but certainly he can't punish me and say it's my 'bad karma'. To Weliviell- I showed him -v3)Hate is not overcome by hate; by Love (Metta) alone is hate appeased. This is an eternal law.- That, but he said it's a load of crap. He says Buddhism is a load of crap, and then argued with me why it is. (Because now he's just a 'toaist'.) And then he called me shallow because I'm interested in Buddhism, when I used to be in Islam, and my changing (more blending the two though) my mind is me being shallow. Bleh, I give up. crying Leave this dude. he is causing you more anguish than you deserve. And that is on a common sense level, not a spiritual one! He is the shallow one, he can't even keep a straight religion and seems to have changed it based on how you called him out.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:20 pm
AssiaYomomato Thank you! You've all been a huge help sweatdrop I thought I was right, but I wanted to make sure. I know my actions are my responsibilty, but certainly he can't punish me and say it's my 'bad karma'. To Weliviell- I showed him -v3)Hate is not overcome by hate; by Love (Metta) alone is hate appeased. This is an eternal law.- That, but he said it's a load of crap. He says Buddhism is a load of crap, and then argued with me why it is. (Because now he's just a 'toaist'.) And then he called me shallow because I'm interested in Buddhism, when I used to be in Islam, and my changing (more blending the two though) my mind is me being shallow. Bleh, I give up. crying You being shallow? Sound like he might be doing projection of his problems on to you, maybe that why he is mean since he has some issue he needs to sort out. But I'm not you so I can't be certain unless I experienced what was going on. You should still keep loving kindness in dealing with anyone so if you leave him, be nice about it 3nodding .
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:06 am
You're all very right. However he just told me he's been diagnosed as severly depressed. So of course I can't leave him now. sweatdrop Partly because I'm afraid of what he'd do. sweatdrop But anyway, that's enough of that. ^^;; Thanks for the help! blaugh
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:06 am
Not to be nasty, or seem paranoid, but can you trust that he's not making up the depression diagnosis?
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:44 am
No, you're right, I can't trust that he isn't making it up. Perhaps because he's closer than an aqquaintance I trust him less, very backwards thinking I know. I can accept it easily if he's lying, and then just leave him, easy.
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