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Something tells me that you don't understand how working works. Working in or managing a fast food place or gas station gives absolutely zero power- Managers don't make money based on profits, that all goes to corporate. Which you would probably be glad to know is almost exclusively white males.

They're paid slightly more than the grunt workers, but being a managers is literally nothing.

yeh. those are taken way out of context. i own two Qu'Rans, and i have dealt with people talking about how the Qu'Ran talks about litterally terrorizing and killing people in the name of Allah, and i read it myself to find it to be all bullshit. so, yeh. try again.

My Qur'an does not say that. I highly question the source you are using for your text. Can you post the site? Or the translators name?

Because Jihad is not holy war or anything similar.
Jihad (جهاد) - meaning literally "struggle' We can use Jihad in a number of contexts. It is also seen as "striving in the way of Allah / al-jihad fi sabil Allah" Which is seen as staying on the "straight path / al musta-qeem" This is keeping modest, chaste, keeping in prayer, staying away from Haraam life. (forbidden things)

Now onto your quotes...


I use a contemporary translation by Ahmed Ali, a very well respected translator of Islamic scripts.

2:90 (The Cow)

"Fight those in the way of God who fight you, but do not be aggressive. For Allah does not like the aggressors"

8:12 (Spoils of War) Because Muslims were forced to engage in war.

"And the lord said to the Angels, "I am with you, go and strengthen the faithful. I shall fill the hearts of the Kaffirs (non-believers) with fear. So smite them on their necks and every joint"

This one is more violent. But there is good reason for that. Nearly all religions have gone through times of war, except maybe Buddhism. To understand the Qur'an fully, i recommend reading: * The life of Prophet Muhammad and a book on Pre-Islam Arabia.

The Qur'an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad over YEARS. Not like...over night. And the Qur'an reflects what was going on at the time it was revealed to him. This was revealed to him in a time of anguish for him. Many tribes who followed Idol worship (which are classified as "Paganism" but not the Paganism we know today) rebelled against Muhammad because he taught a belief radically different from them.

When he started to reach people and they began to convert to Islam and leave the Idol worshipping practices of their tribe, the tribes got mad.They would throw the insides of animals on Muhammad's back while he was in prayer. Eventually, Muhammad moved to Madinah. But the tribes did not stop. They would kidnap the women that converted and try to kill the men...They even put a hit out on Muhammad...

In Muhammad's time, he had 4 large battles. But it was recorded he lived peacefully with many other "tribes" as well as Arabian Jews.

Hopefully this will give you some insight.

First of all, thank you so much for accepting my reply. It means a lot since i took my time to do that xD I am not a scholar, just a Muslim trying my best to clear misconceptions.


Anyway, those people are guided wrongly from the start, then they like to try to brain wash other Muslims into their traps. Thankfully, most of us know better.

i do so love the Muslim people i meet almost everywhere.... very few who i meet have ever got on my wrong side, and both of them were hypocritical of their Islamic Faith anyway, being manipulators and haters.

i find that Muslims are among the nicest, kindest, most polite and hospitable people. only Hindi people seem to equal them in those regards. ^_^

:shrugs.: i dunno, i like'em. i have yet to see anything amiss with the way they live, leastways in America. the only problems i see are the general christian fears of Muslims and Islam.

They throw stones at anyone who doesn't agree with them, calling them fags. They have broken the law. They also throw stones at people's cares if they show ANY signs of having some kind of positive relationship with the idea of homosexuality.

Funny thing actually. I know hundreds and have met thousands of Muslims, and really all great people for the most part. A few quiet or disgruntled ones here and there, but nothing beyond the human norm. I'm yet to encounter these, "terrorist monsters" personally. I think at the most, they are an extreme monority. Even the ones who had hurt people in the name of their religion. Those I spoke to, were not bad people by my judgement. Some of them had been hurt very badly to lead to them doing so.