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 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:41 am
I have to do a film review for my Science Fiction course, and my professor said to select one of the films from his top 95 list, but if we can give him a valid argument as to why another film should be considered science fiction, he will approve it.
I can't really explain why.. but Repo! was the frst film that came to mind, shortly followed by V for Vendetta.
help?
What should my argument be?
Thanks everyone 4laugh
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:08 am
You could state elements of science fiction present in the movie. Usually science fiction contains elements of, well, science (which could be exhibited through the fact that medical usage is heavy in the movie) or the setting, which is in a dystopian future. It has a very cyberpunk feeling to the movie.
You could get statements from other websites about the genre of the movie. It would essentially be a bibliography, though.
Just a few suggestions. ^^
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:51 am
Like Doctor Jax said, you could use the whole medical theme in the movie. Selling organs, improving them (digital corneas), surgeries that erase skin blemishes, and change skin color, and even the fact that it has that whole post-apocalyptic thing to it. I'm almost certain I've seen some sites saying that Repo was science fiction.....
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:00 pm
Repo! is very definitely and obviously science fiction, but it does fall towards the softer side of the Mohs Scale of Science Fiction Hardness. Medicine in Repo! is capable of doing things that just aren't possible in the real world, but since it's towards the softer side of the scale, there's no explanation of how or why things work. They just do.
Examples of the sci-fi:
Mag's digital eyes
Transplants in general
Cloned/artificial organs (implied in some outside materials; I mean, where are they getting all those organs?)
Zydrate (Fun fanmade resource!)
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:28 pm
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Swift: They are actually experimenting with cloning organs in order to meet the demand of transplants needed now. With bioengineering becoming more popular, I would not be surprised to see Repo! like organs appearing within the next decade, minus the fashion part of it of course (or will it? ). It is no longer within the realm of science fiction completely anymore, but a near future item that scientists will soon have their hands on.
How are all transplants science fiction? I can see spines, brains, digital corneas (I actually read somewhere that they are making a sort of digital cornea to combat eye illnesses like cataracts, so Mag's projecting eyes may not be too far off D: ), and full face transplants being on there (even though we are getting to that point), but most are common practice today.
As for the OP: If you take into account the 2012 apocalyptic theories, and then look at the state Sanitarium Island is in in 2056/7, it is definitely science fiction. Whenever something horrible happens in society (look at the collapse of the Roman Empire and the effects it had on Europe especially), things tend to reverse in production status for a while, and you can see that with some of the clothing, technology, and even buildings (the carnival in Sanitarium Island is something reminiscent of Italian traveling shows in centuries before this one, and the Wallace house looks more 18th/19th century). Although some things move forward, most go backwards as society tries to get by each day. GeneCo moved on, by everything else took a huge leap back.
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:16 pm
Something doesn't have to be totally impossible to be science fiction; the application of science that is theoretically or soon-to-be possible can be science fiction too.
TV Tropes The one defining(-ish, definitions differ) trait of Science Fiction is that there is technology that doesn't exist in the time period the story is written in. Consider 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. The story was written in a time when submarines were still at the prototype stage, so 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea falls within the boundaries of Science Fiction. However, Science Fiction is as much a genre as a setting. Often, the technology is a means to explore a concept, and the story could be a detective story focusing on how advanced technology affects crime and policing. This story would be both Science Fiction and Detective Story.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:46 pm
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Well, to me science fiction has the possibility to be real, but has not really been grasped to the point where it could happen tomorrow. I guess it all depends on who is looking at it and from what angle.
However you look it at it though, it is pretty scary that Repo! has a good chance of becoming more science fact than fiction in the coming years. If they come up with light-emitting digital eyeballs, you can find me in the fetal position in a dark cave located in the most secluded mountains on Mars.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:34 pm
Don't be too scared if those kinds of things become possible; they will still probably be prohibitively expensive for anyone to really use. For a while at least, I imagine. I mean we have the technology to tell when babies are going to be born with all kinds of genetic diseases and yet we haven't eradicated those genetic disorders, and it looks like we're still a long way from anything like Brave New World social classes.
That's one of the great things about science fiction; it can try to predict how certain technologies could be used, but it can never tell us with any certainty how they will be used. And in fact it can warn us against letting those potentials come to pass.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:52 pm
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They claim they do not have a cure to the common cold, yet they have cures for more obscure things. I bet there is a cure, but they are holding it back thanks to the massive amounts of money drug companies make on people treating their symptoms. I would not be surprised if they withheld cures for genetic diseases because of the money people pay to treat and work around them. I just feel Repo! shows something more than what it was meant to be (a story created by the imaginations of two talented men based on issues we have today). Call it intuition nagging at me.
Anyway, when new items come out they are a s**t load of money, yet a year or so later they are worth only a fraction of their original price. I would not doubt digital corneas and other bio-engineered organs would be for the rich at first, but as the technology improves and more are being produced, the more common folk would be able to obtain them for themselves.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:09 pm
Obviously I have no proof to argue against it, but I don't believe there's some bid conspiracy to cover up something like that. I do think it's entirely possible that no one can get funding to actually cure the common cold because of pharmaceutical companies, though. Who knows. I just don't believe that these mega-corporations and the government and so forth are that competent. There's too much obvious, massive incompetence floating around for that to seem likely to me.
That's true of a lot of things, but medical stuff still tends to be on the "Holy s**t are you ******** serious?" expensive side. There are amazing robotic prosthetics that were developed years ago but they're still too expensive/untested to be widely available.
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:10 pm
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If you can make them artificially or through a cloning process, the supply increases since you are not limited to the dead or donors giving up their organs, thus decreasing the price over time. The reason behind GeneCo costing a lot is due to them being a fashion statement rather than just for medical purposes. You could probably get a normal heart for less than you would one made by Chanel or one plastered with polka dots.
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