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 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:22 pm
@trok024
That was deep. And great advice.
Thanks for serving your country. *salutes*
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:50 am
i'll say this. it's not that i don't care about the Haitians, but it is true that i feel america's desire to help them out stems more from a desire to appear like the high-rolling good-guys. we know we have a crappy rep in the world, and are trying to fix it the same way the leviticans tried to act so holy in the bible. once we are back to our homeless at home, we revert back to harsh heartless jerks with no compassion, telling the homeless and impoverished that they are bums and that it's their own damn fault that they are poor. same as the so-called holy men mentioned above did good works in public but did opposite behind closed doors.
now, myself, i did what little i could for the Haitians, and i don't give a damn about them being aware of it. i am just glad that i could do something for someone (and a little upset that i couldn't do more to help). but my main goals right now are stopping Poverty, Domestic Abuse, Gang Violence and Oppression. mainly here in the U.S.
i know what it's like to come across as cruel or heartless or such when bringing up an unpleasant truth or a simple statement of practicality. so i don't think you are in the wrong to comment on how we have problems at home that need dealing with. people need to quit being posers and actually do some good works.
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:58 am
Zakerii To say the least (but not really).. the fact is that very many people in this country in need of aid won't get it regardless of whether or not Haiti does (nor were they getting it before the earthquakes), so it's better to see the funding and help going to anybody period instead of nothing happening at all. People here needed help before Haiti (though that's a hard case to make since I learned "fourth-world country" was even applicable in modern times and it was regarding Haiti), and they'll need it afterwards. Debating whether or not they should get it when it's making a difference for the lives of many who desperately needed it is exactly the sort of thing that's keeping a lot of people here in the U.S. from getting help to begin with. Coming from somebody with relatives living on reservations, that's a point that hits a lot closer to home than most would think. Obviously, many people in America need help too, but you can't force people to give them that help by preventing it being given to others.. nor is that a way of doing things I could personally agree with, either. The U.S.A. has a lot on its plate right now both at home and abroad, and the courses will only get larger as the world continues to grow and change, but an America helping the rest of the world in the midst of such chaos is the America I do my best to believe in every day. While I do hope for things at home to get better, I believe a big part of helping ourselves is reaching out to others with an open palm rather than a closed fist.. and Haiti is a perfect example of that. That being said, do whatever you can (within reason) for friends, family, and strangers alike when the chance presents itself! aye, this is a hug-worthy speach my friend! smile *hugs you.*
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:02 am
Manguusu @trok024 That was deep. And great advice. Thanks for serving your country. *salutes* and i follow up with, thankyou for serving your world. *salutes.* smile
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:53 pm
As food for thought, Natural disasters are nobody's fault. No one could have prevented it or have been any less affected. But with homeless in America, there is a chance that they could help themselves and choose not to. In addition there are already taxes that pay to help the homeless in America. I don't mean to be insensitive, but I think people worry that giving money to homeless in America might just fuel some drug addiction.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:27 pm
Whenever I see a homeless person on the street, i never have anything to help them with...
anytime I have money or something I give it to them.
i honestly don't care much if i'm being swindled or lied to...
like if my money was used for the lottery or for alcohol/etc
if someone needs and i can provide a small contribution I do it,
even if i happen to be in another country at the time
(I gave my money to "gypsies" and beggars that needed it.)
now, haiti...
they have 3billion and probably more, so I've heard.
we have ridiculous debt in the US, and we can shell out 3billion.
what is that.
I have nothing against giving to them, if you really want to...
but i just think the money is going to causes that are beyond our control,
when we need money for ourselves to kind of... in a sense, start filling the hole we made with dirt.
if this is unclear to anyone, tl;dr:
i did not give my money to haiti,
nor do i think it is logical to be donated by citizens of the US
due to situations in the US.
at the same time, if you wish to assist you may.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:54 am
I agree, but at the same time I somewhat disagree. Disaster areas leave hazardous environments, such as crumbling buildings and floods, which makes being homeless even worse than it is in another place, for example, New York. I believe that if we have the ability to help, regardless of where we are helping at, we should. This means if we can help the homeless of safer places, we should, but if we also have the ability to help the newly homeless in more dangerous areas such as the disaster zones, we should do so there as well.
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