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Are you a naturalistic pagan?
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Underworld Priestess
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:54 pm



I recently came across this topic and thought that I should share it for those who are interested.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:57 pm


Naturalistic Paganism - also called Scientific Pantheism

It is a celebration and a way to renew our connection with nature.

Naturalistic pagans do not believe in magic or gods, and believe that science is in all things.
Naturalistic pagans enjoy rituals, pagan metaphors and non-escapist "spiritual" life.

"Naturalism: "Philosophy. The system of thought holding that all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws. Theology. The doctrine that all religious truths are derived from nature and natural causes and not from revelation."

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Underworld Priestess
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:59 pm


A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe as revealed
by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe
hardly tapped by the conventional faiths. Sooner or later, such a religion will emerge.
Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot (1994)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:01 am


From: http://www.pantheism.net/paul/index.htm

Belief:

At the heart of pantheism is reverence of the universe as the ultimate focus of reverence, and for the natural earth as sacred.

Scientific or Natural Pantheism - Pan for short - has a naturalistic approach which simply accepts and reveres the universe and nature just as they are, and promotes an ethic of respect for human and animal rights and for lifestyles that sustain rather than destroy the environment.

When scientific pantheists say WE REVERE THE UNIVERSE we are not talking about a supernatural being. We are talking about the way our senses and our emotions force us to respond to the overwhelming mystery and power that surrounds us.
We are part of the universe. Our earth was created from the universe and will one day be reabsorbed into the universe.
We are made of the same matter and energy as the universe. We are not in exile here: we are at home. It is only here that we will ever get the chance to see paradise face to face. If we believe our real home is not here but in a land that lies beyond death - if we believe that the numinous is found only in old books, or old buildings, or inside our head, or outside this reality - then we will see this real, vibrant, luminous world as if through a glass darkly.
The universe creates us, preserves us, destroys us. It is deep and old beyond our ability to reach with our senses. It is beautiful beyond our ability to describe in words. It is complex beyond our ability to fully grasp in science. We must relate to the universe with humility, awe, reverence, celebration and the search for deeper understanding - in many of the ways that believers relate to their God, minus the grovelling worship or the expectation that there is some being out there who can answer our prayers.

This overwhelming presence is everywhere inside you and outside you and you can never be separated from it.

Whatever else is taken from you, this can never be taken from you.
Wherever you are, it's there with you.
Wherever you go, it goes with you.
Whatever happens to you, it remains with you.

When pantheists say WE REVERE AND CARE FOR NATURE, we mean it with just as much commitment and reverence as believers speaking about their church or mosque, or the relics of their saints. But again we are not talking about supernatural beings. We are saying this:

We are part of nature. Nature made us and at our death we will be reabsorbed into nature. We are at home in nature and in our bodies. This is where we belong. This is the only place where we can find and make our paradise, not in some imaginary world on the other side of the grave. If nature is the only paradise, then separation from nature is the only hell. When we destroy nature, we create hell on earth for other species and for ourselves.

Nature is our mother, our home, our security, our peace, our past and our future. We should treat natural things and habitats as believers treat their temples and shrines, as sacred - to be revered and preserved in all their intricate and fragile beauty.

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Underworld Priestess
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:04 am


From: http://www.pantheism.net/paul/index.htm

Are You a Pantheist?
When you look at the night sky or at the images of the Hubble Space Telescope, are you filled with feelings of awe and wonder at the overwhelming beauty and power of the universe?
When you are in the midst of nature, in a forest, by the sea, on a mountain peak - do you ever feel a sense of the sacred, like the feeling of being in a vast cathedral?
Do you believe that humans should be a part of Nature, rather than set above it?

If you can answer yes to all of these questions, then you have pantheistic leanings.

Are you sceptical about a "God" other than Nature and the wider Universe?
Yet do you feel an emotional need for a recognition of something greater than your own self or than the human race?

If you answer yes to these additional questions then pantheism is very probably your natural religious home. If you want to see why others chose it, then check Why I am a pantheist .

Pantheism is older than Buddhism or Christianity, and may already count hundreds of millions among its members. Most Taoists are pantheists, along with many Chinese, Japanese and Western Buddhists, deep ecologists, pagans, animists, followers of many native religions, and many Unitarian Universalists. The central philosophical scriptures of Hinduism are pantheistic. Many atheists and humanists may be naturalistic pantheists without realizing it.

Scientific or natural pantheism is a modern form of pantheism that deeply reveres the universe and nature and joyfully accepts and embraces life, the body and earth, but does not believe in any supernatural deities, entities or powers.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:26 pm


I think.. if this topic got deleted, I might just cry, but that could be the lack of sleep and the sugar high talking. I think this is what I believe in.

Visual_Andy


Sky Raven Moon

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:46 pm


Hey, thanks for the info because I have never heard of a naturalistic paganism.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:59 pm


Sky Raven Moon
Hey, thanks for the info because I have never heard of a naturalistic paganism.


I never had either, so it's taking me awhile to gather all of the information for it.

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Neamhain Riona
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:02 am


It almost sounds like Sciencelogy
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:31 pm


GuardianIceQueen
It almost sounds like Sciencelogy

You're right. It does sound like Sciencelogy. Interesting...

Sky Raven Moon


Underworld Priestess
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:32 pm


Here is the information I found on Scientology:

Scientology teaches that people are immortal spiritual beings who have forgotten their true nature. Its method of spiritual rehabilitation is a type of counseling known as auditing, in which practitioners aim to consciously re-experience painful or traumatic events in their past in order to free themselves of their limiting effects. Study materials and auditing courses are made available to members in return for specified donations. Scientology is legally recognized as a tax-exempt religion in the United States and some other countries, and the Church of Scientology emphasizes this as proof that it is a bona fide religion though it is not. In other countries such as Germany, France and the United Kingdom, Scientology does not have comparable religious status.

Scientology claims that its beliefs and practices are based on rigorous research, and its doctrines are accorded a significance equivalent to that of scientific laws

Scientology beliefs revolve around the thetan, the individualized expression of the cosmic source, or life force, named after the Greek letter theta (θ). The thetan is the true identity of a person – an intrinsically good, omniscient, non-material core capable of unlimited creativity.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:33 pm


So basically the difference is Scientology is about the self and the cosmic universe and not about worshipping nature. Scientology also has a lot of rules and structure.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:29 pm


Sky Raven Moon
GuardianIceQueen
It almost sounds like Sciencelogy

You're right. It does sound like Sciencelogy. Interesting...

i think that's Scientology...
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