ShadowIce
Bitter_Medicine
You did the same thing and make assumption as well, or so it seemed. My family is not poor but prices keep going up and they keep adding taxes, it all that adds up. It's getting pretty tight.

Of course I make assumptions. I never denied it. I simply said that it isn't terribly consistent to tell me I shouldn't assume and then do so yourself.

And where did I say you were poor? Because I don't remember saying that. All I assumed (based on what you said) is that you are having trouble paying for your health care. Universal health care is designed to help people in this category. However, if I was mistaken and you aren't having trouble paying for your health care, I apologize, but I must then ask what you were saying, because clearly I didn't get it.

Bitter_Medicine
I'll believe it when I see it. When they stop denying people (it was hard enough just to get that insurance), making everything over priced and actually help, there won't be a problem but it all sounds iffy right now.

All I'm helping at the moment is the insurance company make more money and I'm sure many other people feel like that, they sure as hell not helping me any and even if they do, it isn't much compared to the price we have to pay. I pay them because they are supposed to help me and lower the cost of everything and make sure I get what I need.

Medical bills, medication, and surgeries can be costly and medication is actually going up in price. Will they actually lower the prices?


It's just really hard to swallow everything they say unless I actually see changes.

*shrug* I don't know if they will manage to make it work. I certainly hope they do. But if your problem is that you don't know if it will work or not because we haven't tried it, then I don't really understand why you would oppose trying it. We won't know until we try. However, we are the only first world country that doesn't have universal health care, and the people of the countries that do have universal health care haven't abandoned, so it must work on some level.


I'm pretty sure I say it somewhere, if not I apologize. I didn't say you actually lived in a nice place or not, just saying that maybe you do as it sounded better in the other post.

I just don't want to have to pay more taxes along with high insurance. Just got a letter not long ago and they are raising prices for next year or when it ends actually. I just don't see any signs of lowering prices.

It can only work if people can afford to do it, and for that to happen, they would have to lower prices as well while at least trying to see how it goes.

Most of those countries have very high tax rate but they also get a lot more benefits so it's fair and equal and don't have to pay insurance besides the taxes as that's where they get the all the money. That's why it worked for them. Norway get free check-ups for people up to a certain age, free child-care, longer maternity leave as well as guarantee that their job will still be there, if they lost their job, the government will help pay for everything up til five years, etc...that is WHY it works for them.

I think I might be mixing up Norway and Sweden but I think they are similar in health care and taxes.