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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:29 pm
OberFeldwebel Requiem in Mortis If I remember correctly, there was a shooting on or near an Air Force base around Sacramento not too long ago. I'll get the link if I can. I swear to God, if the Liberals try to use this incident as evidence for banning civilian weapons I am going to go out and deck the first Lib I see. EDIT: I went to look up that shooting at the AF base, and the first result in Google was already "Shooting at Fort Hood". They kind of are. They're letting people speculate or assume where this major got the guns he used. They haven't said that they were issued and they haven't said that they weren't. They'll definitely turn this into a 'omg ban gunz nao okee?' Anyway, I think a firing squad is too good for this piece of s**t. Tall tree, short rope and an even shorter fall. man, Fox is doing the most speculation by far... hell this afternoon they were talking "do we need special debriefings for Muslim men in arms?" and it was a serious discussion... i am always speechless after shootings... not because of the event that has taken place, but by what people perceive it to be... for every person who points at the gun, there will be another person who points at the person that did it... it;s always a combination of the circumstance surrounding the situation... i want to say get over it, but that;s not the right wording for this situation because of the loss of life... that is never something to "get over" and forget... i just wish people would stop talking about it in such a polarized way... it happened, and it cost lives... period... wait a time, then sort it out in a broad and knowledgeable manner, then learn from the experience...
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:51 pm
Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Requiem in Mortis If I remember correctly, there was a shooting on or near an Air Force base around Sacramento not too long ago. I'll get the link if I can. I swear to God, if the Liberals try to use this incident as evidence for banning civilian weapons I am going to go out and deck the first Lib I see. EDIT: I went to look up that shooting at the AF base, and the first result in Google was already "Shooting at Fort Hood". They kind of are. They're letting people speculate or assume where this major got the guns he used. They haven't said that they were issued and they haven't said that they weren't. They'll definitely turn this into a 'omg ban gunz nao okee?' Anyway, I think a firing squad is too good for this piece of s**t. Tall tree, short rope and an even shorter fall. man, Fox is doing the most speculation by far... hell this afternoon they were talking "do we need special debriefings for Muslim men in arms?" and it was a serious discussion... i am always speechless after shootings... not because of the event that has taken place, but by what people perceive it to be... for every person who points at the gun, there will be another person who points at the person that did it... it;s always a combination of the circumstance surrounding the situation... i want to say get over it, but that;s not the right wording for this situation because of the loss of life... that is never something to "get over" and forget... i just wish people would stop talking about it in such a polarized way... it happened, and it cost lives... period... wait a time, then sort it out in a broad and knowledgeable manner, then learn from the experience... That sounds a bit callous. Like "Yeah, people died, but lets think on it later." If that's not what you meant, I'm sorry. But yes, much thought should be put into the person whom committed this atrocious act. He may not have done it because he's Muslim, but he is Muslim. As racist (religionist?) as that is to assume that had something to do with it, It's a reasonable thought. But as Sherlock Holmes said, it's best to not make deductions until one has all the information. Otherwise you'll start twisting facts to suit your theories in stead of the other way around. So I currently have no opinion on this event, just that it sucked.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:25 pm
ArmasTermin Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Requiem in Mortis If I remember correctly, there was a shooting on or near an Air Force base around Sacramento not too long ago. I'll get the link if I can. I swear to God, if the Liberals try to use this incident as evidence for banning civilian weapons I am going to go out and deck the first Lib I see. EDIT: I went to look up that shooting at the AF base, and the first result in Google was already "Shooting at Fort Hood". They kind of are. They're letting people speculate or assume where this major got the guns he used. They haven't said that they were issued and they haven't said that they weren't. They'll definitely turn this into a 'omg ban gunz nao okee?' Anyway, I think a firing squad is too good for this piece of s**t. Tall tree, short rope and an even shorter fall. man, Fox is doing the most speculation by far... hell this afternoon they were talking "do we need special debriefings for Muslim men in arms?" and it was a serious discussion... i am always speechless after shootings... not because of the event that has taken place, but by what people perceive it to be... for every person who points at the gun, there will be another person who points at the person that did it... it;s always a combination of the circumstance surrounding the situation... i want to say get over it, but that;s not the right wording for this situation because of the loss of life... that is never something to "get over" and forget... i just wish people would stop talking about it in such a polarized way... it happened, and it cost lives... period... wait a time, then sort it out in a broad and knowledgeable manner, then learn from the experience... That sounds a bit callous. Like "Yeah, people died, but lets think on it later." If that's not what you meant, I'm sorry. But yes, much thought should be put into the person whom committed this atrocious act. He may not have done it because he's Muslim, but he is Muslim. As racist (religionist?) as that is to assume that had something to do with it, It's a reasonable thought. But as Sherlock Holmes said, it's best to not make deductions until one has all the information. Otherwise you'll start twisting facts to suit your theories in stead of the other way around. So I currently have no opinion on this event, just that it sucked. Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:26 pm
ArmasTermin Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Requiem in Mortis If I remember correctly, there was a shooting on or near an Air Force base around Sacramento not too long ago. I'll get the link if I can. I swear to God, if the Liberals try to use this incident as evidence for banning civilian weapons I am going to go out and deck the first Lib I see. EDIT: I went to look up that shooting at the AF base, and the first result in Google was already "Shooting at Fort Hood". They kind of are. They're letting people speculate or assume where this major got the guns he used. They haven't said that they were issued and they haven't said that they weren't. They'll definitely turn this into a 'omg ban gunz nao okee?' Anyway, I think a firing squad is too good for this piece of s**t. Tall tree, short rope and an even shorter fall. man, Fox is doing the most speculation by far... hell this afternoon they were talking "do we need special debriefings for Muslim men in arms?" and it was a serious discussion... i am always speechless after shootings... not because of the event that has taken place, but by what people perceive it to be... for every person who points at the gun, there will be another person who points at the person that did it... it;s always a combination of the circumstance surrounding the situation... i want to say get over it, but that;s not the right wording for this situation because of the loss of life... that is never something to "get over" and forget... i just wish people would stop talking about it in such a polarized way... it happened, and it cost lives... period... wait a time, then sort it out in a broad and knowledgeable manner, then learn from the experience... That sounds a bit callous. Like "Yeah, people died, but lets think on it later." If that's not what you meant, I'm sorry. But yes, much thought should be put into the person whom committed this atrocious act. He may not have done it because he's Muslim, but he is Muslim. As racist (religionist?) as that is to assume that had something to do with it, It's a reasonable thought. But as Sherlock Holmes said, it's best to not make deductions until one has all the information. Otherwise you'll start twisting facts to suit your theories in stead of the other way around. So I currently have no opinion on this event, just that it sucked. ur implying with "lets think on it later" is sort of like saying "lets not think about the fallen or anything else" right? that;s not what i'm saying... what i was trying to say is let all things come to an end, then do something about it... case in point, weather he was alive or not... instantly when u think of a school shooting or "fort" shooting or what ever you want to call this thing, you assume the person who did it is dead, and so does the media and so they report it... well he isn;t... oh... so rushing to conclusions was a bad idea? so 1/2 of the people who just glanced at the tv thinks the guy is dead... that was productive... let police or whoever end the situation, take a tally of who is where and what has happened, then go about reporting that info to the public... as to the other section, yes asking the question "did this man shoot people because of his interpretation of him religious belief?" is perfectly acceptable and i have nothing against that question because it was been shown that he may have written pro-suicide bombing essay or w/e, and has had incidents before of religious based "rants"... the way that fox was reporting it suggested that all ~50,000 men and women in arms that identify as Muslim should not be trusted because they "could" do the same thing as this person, just because they are Muslim... well if that's true, then why not watch all the atheist's in the military? Klebolt and Harris were atheist... they shot people... you can't... you just can't... alot of people screwed up and allowed this to happen... he showed alot of prior actions that would put him "at risk" of doing something drastic... perhaps his commanding officer didn;t know about the pro-suicide bombing essay, but they did know about his religious based rants in previous PTSD sessions (i think PTSD, i may be wrong about that tho) so they should never have put him in a situation that he may react to... the flip side to that that i can see coming right away is "hey, that was the job that he got and accepted the responsibilities, and he should have just sucked it up"... well if that's the way you want to run things, then your going to have to accept the fact that a few people will snap... then you can tell the victims parents that it wasn't your fault because the guy "just snapped"
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:30 pm
OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. of course he did... his religion isn;t in question here... it's like Klebolt or Harris yelling "******** YEAH!" at one point or another... does that mean anyone who says that is going to kill a dozen kids at there school? no... his perception of Islam vrs. the "mainstream" perception of Islam is the real issue that i'm arguing for and against... so don;'t label as "pro shootings" or w/e... i think they are horrible incidents, but vastly misunderstood incidents...
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:32 pm
Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. of course he did... his religion isn;t in question here... his perception of Islam vrs. the "mainstream" perception of Islam is the real issue that i'm arguing for and against... it's like Klebolt or Harris yelling "******** YEAH!" at one point or another... does that mean anyone who says that is going to kill a dozen kids at there school? no... I'm not saying that either. But his intention of murder isn't a 'sudden mental snap', it's probably something he planned or was in process of planning and his sudden deployment ******** it up. Also heard he was under watch because he was researching bombs.
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:42 pm
OberFeldwebel Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. of course he did... his religion isn;t in question here... his perception of Islam vrs. the "mainstream" perception of Islam is the real issue that i'm arguing for and against... it's like Klebolt or Harris yelling "******** YEAH!" at one point or another... does that mean anyone who says that is going to kill a dozen kids at there school? no... I'm not saying that either. But his intention of murder isn't a 'mental snap', it's probably something he planned and his sudden deployment ******** it up. Also heard he was under watch because he was researching bombs. ok well i haven;t heard any of that... (so hey, here i am proving 1/2 of my own points about rushing to conclusions xp ) if that;s true that he was planning or even just researching bombs or an attack or anything of that nature, well then yeah it;s not a stretch to say the sudden deployment may have caused some mental turmoil and "forced his hand"... idk tho... But his intention of murder isn't a 'mental snap', it's probably something he planned and his sudden deployment ******** it up. i haven;t heard what happened fully, and neither has anyone else... personally i have no opinion on why this happened yet because of the many unknowns... hell i'm canadian... the most centrist people on the planet xp i'm just pushing the idea that for every person who will used this as a reason to ban guns, there is another person that will use it to discriminate against Muslims, or to stall a bill in congress, or to sell personal protection equipment at a higher price... and that none of them should, and a knowledgeable people should recognize the tricks and spin, and just wait... let that thing cool off and get dealt with, as you deal with you and yours and think about the victims for a day or two...
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:48 pm
Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Maddness91 OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. of course he did... his religion isn;t in question here... his perception of Islam vrs. the "mainstream" perception of Islam is the real issue that i'm arguing for and against... it's like Klebolt or Harris yelling "******** YEAH!" at one point or another... does that mean anyone who says that is going to kill a dozen kids at there school? no... I'm not saying that either. But his intention of murder isn't a 'mental snap', it's probably something he planned and his sudden deployment ******** it up. Also heard he was under watch because he was researching bombs. ok well i haven;t heard any of that... (so hey, here i am proving 1/2 of my own points about rushing to conclusions xp ) if that;s true that he was planning or even just researching bombs or an attack or anything of that nature, well then yeah it;s not a stretch to say the sudden deployment may have caused some mental turmoil and "forced his hand"... idk tho... But his intention of murder isn't a 'mental snap', it's probably something he planned and his sudden deployment ******** it up.
i haven;t heard what happened fully, and neither has anyone else... personally i have no opinion on why this happened yet because of the many unknowns... i'm just pushing the idea that for every person who will used this as a reason to ban guns, there is another person that will use it to discriminate against Muslims, or to stall a bill in congress, or to sell personal protection equipment at a higher price... and that none of them should, and a knowledgeable people should recognize the tricks and spin... Anyway, it's still just a day after. Too much bullshit information still flying around, it'll be quite some time before the BS is weeded out. Remember the news stations after 9/11? It was an information nightmare. It's when that scrolling bar at the bottom of the screen was invented or at least used effectively. To further the theory. Where else would a military target of opportunity be than on their own soil in a place where they are unarmed and would not readily expect an attack such as this?
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:58 pm
OberFeldwebel To further the theory. Where else would a military target of opportunity be than on their own soil in a place where they are unarmed and would not readily expect an attack such as this? there's a whole host that i can think of... basically anywhere... is there anywhere you go in the USA (or any 1st world country really) where you EXPECT to be attacked?... but yeah... i see your point of "nothings going to happen on an ARMY base... what are you ignorant?"...which is actually kinda brilliant to make that plan if you think about it... outside the box to say the least confused
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:11 pm
Maddness91 OberFeldwebel To further the theory. Where else would a military target of opportunity be than on their own soil in a place where they are unarmed and would not readily expect an attack such as this? there's a whole host that i can think of... basically anywhere... is there anywhere you go in the USA (or any 1st world country really) where you EXPECT to be attacked?... but yeah... i see your point of "nothings going to happen on an ARMY base... what are you ignorant?"...which is actually kinda brilliant to make that plan if you think about it... outside the box to say the least confused Yeah, people would think a Fort would be armed to the teeth. While that may be the truth, the 'arms' are more than likely all locked away in the armory. Yeah, but no where else would you find a place with a lot of soldiers and some civilians that are unarmed.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:53 am
OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. It's also been reported that the Roswell aliens were behind JFK. I believe them both about equally.
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:01 am
Fresnel OberFeldwebel Anyway, it's been reported that the Major yelled 'allah ahkbar' at one point. It's also been reported that the Roswell aliens were behind JFK. I believe them both about equally. True, just have to wait for the actual s**t I guess.
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