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 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:08 pm
Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel uryu ishida Ubasti OberFeldwebel hehe maybe. I still think that a milled receiver is better than a stamped receiver. No, it isn't. No modern military rifle has a milled reciever. It's far too expensive and time consuming to make, it's too heavy, and it adds nothing to reliability or accuracy. There is no point. Modern firearms use composite materiels or stamped sheet metal for this very reason. ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! I'm pretty certain it is. neutral It is milled. Along with the Walther P1 and I think the Beretta as well is milled out of a solid block of composite. I can't think of a single metal pistol that's not milled and doesn't have 'machine' before 'pistol'. Sometimes the little tiny bits are stamped or molded, but that's probably because it's damn near impossible ot make those tiny parts by milling.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:10 pm
Ubasti uryu ishida Ubasti OberFeldwebel Ubasti OberFeldwebel Yup! ... and I think I made a new enemy. : / Does this have anything to do with me? If it does, forget about it. We all make mistakes like that. I've done it myself plenty of times. hehe maybe. I still think that a milled receiver is better than a stamped receiver. No, it isn't. No modern military rifle has a milled reciever. It's far too expensive and time consuming to make, it's too heavy, and it adds nothing to reliability or accuracy. There is no point. Modern firearms use composite materiels or stamped sheet metal for this very reason. ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! Really? Damn. I thought that thing was made from composite materiels. The furniture, maybe, but the receiver (both upper nad lower) is milled aluminum. MIKHAIL Kalishnikov invented the AK to be milled, though many countries started stamping parts for cost. With Ober's comparison from Tapco, you can actually see that the milled parts are a better design.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:49 pm
uryu ishida Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel uryu ishida ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! I'm pretty certain it is. neutral It is milled. Along with the Walther P1 and I think the Beretta as well is milled out of a solid block of composite. I can't think of a single metal pistol that's not milled and doesn't have 'machine' before 'pistol'. Sometimes the little tiny bits are stamped or molded, but that's probably because it's damn near impossible ot make those tiny parts by milling. Probably difficult, pointless, and detrimental. For tiny parts like that, I'd bet bent angles would be stronger than cut ones, and with something that small, milling would have no upside to it at all. It's already so small it's flimsy, milling won't help. But either way, I meant the frames. I can't think of a single stamped frame for a pistol designed as a semi-auto.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:11 am
uryu ishida Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel uryu ishida ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! I'm pretty certain it is. neutral It is milled. Along with the Walther P1 and I think the Beretta as well is milled out of a solid block of composite. I can't think of a single metal pistol that's not milled and doesn't have 'machine' before 'pistol'. Sometimes the little tiny bits are stamped or molded, but that's probably because it's damn near impossible ot make those tiny parts by milling. Rock Island 1911s are cast. But of course, some area's are milled out.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:47 am
Fresnel uryu ishida Fresnel OberFeldwebel Fresnel uryu ishida ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! I'm pretty certain it is. neutral It is milled. Along with the Walther P1 and I think the Beretta as well is milled out of a solid block of composite. I can't think of a single metal pistol that's not milled and doesn't have 'machine' before 'pistol'. Sometimes the little tiny bits are stamped or molded, but that's probably because it's damn near impossible ot make those tiny parts by milling. Probably difficult, pointless, and detrimental. For tiny parts like that, I'd bet bent angles would be stronger than cut ones, and with something that small, milling would have no upside to it at all. It's already so small it's flimsy, milling won't help. But either way, I meant the frames. I can't think of a single stamped frame for a pistol designed as a semi-auto. Might be a few that are cast, but they're still made with a stronger process than stamping.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:59 pm
"So this is how liberty dies..."
Dude!
You're fricken planter is a mess!
Awesome though.
"... with thunderous applause."
Padme Amidala, SW Episode III: RoTS
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:00 pm
Ubasti uryu ishida Ubasti OberFeldwebel Ubasti OberFeldwebel Yup! ... and I think I made a new enemy. : / Does this have anything to do with me? If it does, forget about it. We all make mistakes like that. I've done it myself plenty of times. hehe maybe. I still think that a milled receiver is better than a stamped receiver. No, it isn't. No modern military rifle has a milled reciever. It's far too expensive and time consuming to make, it's too heavy, and it adds nothing to reliability or accuracy. There is no point. Modern firearms use composite materiels or stamped sheet metal for this very reason. ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! Really? Damn. I thought that thing was made from composite materiels. They're milled, but they still only weigh about 5.5 pounds unloaded! I got to hold an USMC issued M4 (with PEQ box and ACOG scope) at the Miramar Air Show!
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:14 pm
Sgt Buckner Ubasti uryu ishida Ubasti OberFeldwebel hehe maybe. I still think that a milled receiver is better than a stamped receiver. No, it isn't. No modern military rifle has a milled reciever. It's far too expensive and time consuming to make, it's too heavy, and it adds nothing to reliability or accuracy. There is no point. Modern firearms use composite materiels or stamped sheet metal for this very reason. ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! Really? Damn. I thought that thing was made from composite materiels. They're milled, but they still only weigh about 5.5 pounds unloaded! I got to hold an USMC issued M4 (with PEQ box and ACOG scope) at the Miramar Air Show! Try an HBAR National Match AR-15. ******** weighs nine pounds, five of it is the barrel.
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:41 pm
Fresnel Sgt Buckner Ubasti uryu ishida Ubasti OberFeldwebel hehe maybe. I still think that a milled receiver is better than a stamped receiver. No, it isn't. No modern military rifle has a milled reciever. It's far too expensive and time consuming to make, it's too heavy, and it adds nothing to reliability or accuracy. There is no point. Modern firearms use composite materiels or stamped sheet metal for this very reason. ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! Really? Damn. I thought that thing was made from composite materiels. They're milled, but they still only weigh about 5.5 pounds unloaded! I got to hold an USMC issued M4 (with PEQ box and ACOG scope) at the Miramar Air Show! Try an HBAR National Match AR-15. ******** weighs nine pounds, five of it is the barrel. I also did get to hold a match AR that is still used in competitions and a retired match M1A.
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:05 pm
Sgt Buckner Fresnel Sgt Buckner Ubasti uryu ishida ...The M4 is stamped or composite? I thought it was milled aluminum! Really? Damn. I thought that thing was made from composite materiels. They're milled, but they still only weigh about 5.5 pounds unloaded! I got to hold an USMC issued M4 (with PEQ box and ACOG scope) at the Miramar Air Show! Try an HBAR National Match AR-15. ******** weighs nine pounds, five of it is the barrel. I also did get to hold a match AR that is still used in competitions and a retired match M1A. They retired it for a reason. xd
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