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 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:27 am
I am glad to tell you all that my Warrior Circle has offered up a Mass for those who have lost someone andneed to offer up a mass or a prayer for them. If anyone wants me to pray for someone who has passed away in your life post on this Fourm and I will be sure to pray for them on November 3rd.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:51 pm
Praying for the dead is pointless. The dead are dead, it's the living you should pray for. We have another thread explaining why, I'll just find it for you. =) (Heh, almost edited your post there instead of my own. Being a mod is confuddling. sweatdrop ) Anyway, to save Spike the trouble of quoting himself or writing this whole thing out again, here's what he said in another thread: (This is just generally why-Catholocism-is-unBiblical, the let's-not-pray-for-the-dead thing was somewhere else and I can't find it. :/) Spike Zantren
Praying to someone (or something) and bowing/kissing their (or its) feet is worship.[1] The pantheon of Catholic Venerated Saints and the Virgin Mary are treated in this way, therefore they are being worshipped. They are also graven images, including the statues of the supposed Jesus (you can find one one any Catholic crucifix). Idolatry is strictly forbidden by God."Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"
- Exodus 20:4-5 (King James Version)This also applies the the Eucharist. Transubstantiation is a heresy and because the Catholic Church believes the wafer and wine are turned into the literal flesh and blood of Christ (not figurative), they're making themselves cannibals. People quote Jesus out of context at the Last Supper. The bread and wine represented Him, but it wasn't literally Him.
Catholicism also borrows a lot of occultic themes from pagan religions, such as the Mother and Son worship:"The Babylonians, in their popular religion, supremely worshipped a Goddess Mother and a Son, who was represented in pictures and images as an infant or child in his mother's arms. From Babylon, this worship of the Mother and the Child spread to the ends of the earth. In Egypt, the Mother and the Child were worshipped under the names Isis and Osiris [called most frequently Horus]...in Pagan Rome, as Fortuna and Jupiter...the boy; in Greece, as Ceres the Great Mother, with the babe at her breast...and even in Thibet [Tibet], China, and Japan, the Jesuit missionaries were astonished to find the counterpart of Madonna and her child as devoutly worshipped as in Papal Rome itself."
The former pope, John Paul II, on the Sermon on the Mount, sitting on a throne carved with an inverted cross. The inverted cross represents a detestation for Jesus Christ and is often used in Satanic rituals.
Obvious Sun/Eucharist worship and idolatry.
There's more, but I'll leave it at that for now, because I grow tired of spending hours on a single post that only a handful of people will even think to look at, so yeah. I'll save myself a lot of time and quote myself from another thread since this is a more relevant topic.
"Problem is that the Vatican makes up its own rules, even if they go against the teachings of the Bible or add to what is written. Not to mention a few years ago the Catholic Church released a book telling Catholic followers that parts of the Bible aren't true. [1]
...They also add heretical or even pagan practices and teachings to their religion with things like Mass (developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century. The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper.), Purgatory, praying in Latin (a dead language that nobody knows [2]), the Papacy (there is no mention in scripture, or in history, that Peter was ever in Rome, let alone for 25 years to found the Church, as claimed by Catholic doctrine), kissing the Pope's feet [3] [4], Holy water, the Rosary (copied from Muslim and Hindu practices, and condemned by Jesus [5]), Transubstantiation, confessing sins to a priest, the Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia (The Bible is against this. [6]), the apocryphal books, calling Mary the "Mother of God" and calling their preists "Father." In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility. This is blasphemy and was predicted by Paul. [7]"There was also another thread recently where we discussed why praying for the dead isn't Christian; can anybody find that?
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:55 pm
Not bad in playing Spike, Voldy biggrin
Praying to/for the dead is in vain. We may influence others to Christ while in the living, but we cannot do anything when they have died. If you still insist on praying for the dead, I ask you this: Do you think you, a mere mortal, could change God's mind if the man did not accept Christ and will receive salvation just because you or many prayed for him?
Praying for the ones of whom the deceased has left for comfort is acceptable though.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:18 am
Ooh! I wanna play Spike! Spike Zantren Zarfione I don't have to tell you this,but it could be forgotten razz ray for Michael.
Michael who? Michael Jackson? Because if you mean Michael Jackson, don't bother. Praying for the dead is not biblical, it's something done by Catholics who think that if enough people pray for someone, they'll get out of purgatory (also unbiblical) sooner. Besides, I think it's more important for us to pray for the persecuted Christians in India, China and Korea first.
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:03 pm
Don't make me say those lines! I don't really like Jackson biggrin
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:44 am
I'm still waiting for him to do the "Thriller" again and say it was a joke ninja . lol, jk.
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:06 am
rofl
You can tell the guild is almost back to normal again because we're getting off topic after like 5 posts.
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