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I don't see that very often at all, actually. I see people misappropriating titles like "druid" and "Wiccan", but not "Pagan". I mean, it's a pretty freakin' wide umbrella.

Are you directing this at me? How is me asking if he is a Gael have anything to do with evangelizing?

You also have absolutely no basis whatsoever on which to report based off what was said in this topic.

"Hijacking threads" is not reportable. Sure, it's annoying, but not reportable.

On topic:

You know, it was hard to run with those Wiccans in high school for even a little bit without getting *every* catholic in school annoyed at me. Just associating with them made me a bit of a pariah on Sundays, in a congregation which was itself controversial in the predominately Baptist community.

Following the Derail:

Does Cu delegate to you the authority to question others beliefs on account of his theological obligations, or do you just take up this crusade out of your little clique's desire to browbeat everyone else into submission? I doubt Cu would be so lazy in his faith to rest on his laurels while you do the groundwork.

I've watched this dance. Next, when we ask for evidence and you can't provide it, Cu magically appears to save the day for your argument without any real effort, evidence or thought on your part. This type of behavior killing pagan forums. Seriously. People are getting tired of being talked down to, and would rather walk away than put up with being preached at. You're free to evangelize all you want in your PFRC, but when it spills out to affect everyone else, it disrupts our learning process.

The troll metaphor is apt here - you seem to lie in wait, as if hiding under the bridge to pounce on the next victim you see who doesn't meet your expectations. Not everyone needs it shoved down their throat. Put the source out there, and some will actually read it and worse - understand it! even follow it without incredibly preachy disrespect. But! Timing is everything.

Geez, Mormons at least know not to patronize. That's why I can get a good conversation about divinity with them when they wander through the neighborhood.

Shall we move to another thread? Honesty, Integrity, and Respect in Paganism sounds like a nice title. Since i perceive we both will want to claim integrity, you'll favor honesty, and I'll claim respect.

No clique, Set. Why, are you feeling left out? Cu is not lazy, nor do we question self-proclaimed druids out of any obligation to him.

His culture is a small one. There have been many attempts to eradicate it over the centuries. I cannot speak for everyone but personally I find his culture intriguing and as such don't want to see it any more degraded than it already is. And that, frankly, has nothing to do with Cu. Cultural erosion is inevitable but we can do our best to lessen it.



Positive claim provides evidence, yes? or as usual, in this case, either gives justification of the word "druid" (usually based on romantic 19th century crap about "the Celts" which was fanciful and incorrect) or proof that the druids did not die out, or passed on their teachings or other such things.

I joined ADF once. I've read into OBOD. Both are interesting organizations. Neither, despite repeated questioning, could provide a decent reason for their use of the word "druid". Not only that, neither could give me a definition of "druid" as they used it, because so many different groups used the term. If all it essentially means is "Neo-Pagan", why the hell is it necessary? particularly since it's highly offensive to the title's culture of origin?

But if you want evidence? Hutton's "The Druids" is reportedly good and he has a new one, "Blood and Mistletoe", which goes into all those fanciful ideas over the centuries. I am unsure of their scholastic value, but his "Triumph of the Moon" bodes well. Then there's this for those interested in Irish mythology. As for the culture, it's a closed one. As such, our best sources are those actually within the culture. I am, at present, unaware of any anthropological studies on the Gael, although I am sure they exist. I will look into it for future use.

You know what's killing Pagan forums? the same thing as has always been killing it. People who think beliefs are beyond question, cultures and pantheons are theirs to pick and choose from like some cosmic lolly scramble, and people who ******** overreact to a simple question.



He has not been evangelising. Evangelism refers to spreading beliefs to those who don't hold said beliefs. RMC has done nothing of the sort. Additionally, saying "the druids are all dead" and similar cannot be evangelism because it is not a statement of belief. It's a statement of fact.



You have been highly disrespectful, in the majority of threads I have seen you post in. RMC has not. He has not behaved like a troll. He is, always, polite, calm and respectful to the utmost. He does not jump on people, and has not done so here.



I wouldn't, if I were you. Rmc has you beat before you even start.

Now if you're done with your patronising, hypocritical bullshit, I am going to lock the ******** out of this thread.