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 Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:26 am
I started wondering about this earlier when someone said Christmas shouldn't be a holiday and that it should be in October.
First, Halloween, I honestly always believed that it is a day meant for little kids to dress up and get candy (in the technical sense). It should not be made into an official holiday where adults or anyone can get a day off from work/school. Especially sense trick-or-treating takes place in the evening. Now I have nothing against Halloween its just that it should be kept a kid day.
Edit: I wrote the above paragraph because I heard someone saying that Halloween should be a national paid Holiday.
Second, Christmas, I know this might be knocking on other peoples faith but actually I'm asking you if you think it should really be considered a paid holiday where people get days off from school/work. Actually thats the part I most love about Christmas, you get two weeks off from school. And I know other cultures have holidays like this too. Though I agree anymore its been made into one big commercialized holiday where people put plastic reindeer in their yard and do an insane amount of shopping. But most Christian scholars do agree that Jesus wasn't born on Christmas, it was Easter. And thats only celebrated for about a day.
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:03 am
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm
Also I know that both Halloween and Christmas have pagan origins. I think it was somewhere in Victorian times that Christmas started to be celebrate the way it is today.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:26 pm
Last I checked Halloween was not a day off, and it's also day of the dead, and saint's day in other cultures anyways.
Christmas is very commercialized, but it's really not a religious holiday anymore, it's more about getting the family together and businesses get a nice business boom. And according to Christians it is the day that Jesus was born, Easter is the celebration of when he rose from the dead 3 days after being crucified.
I don't see a problem with the holidays, I say we leave them as they were.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:30 pm
haloween ws orginally hallows eve a kinda version of all saints day but i changes into halloween after awhile because treats where handed to kids depending on wich saint there were named aafter
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:56 pm
Currupted Dart Christmas is very commercialized, but it's really not a religious holiday anymore Tell that to the people who attempt to erect manger scenes in public places and get sued for it. Hell, even the X-mas tree has been getting some hate the last few years. The reason behind it is almost always religious: someone who isn't Christian feels that Christian holiday paraphernalia shouldn't be displayed in public, because not everyone is Christian and it might offend them when they go to said public place. My family has never put any religious connotation on our celebration of Christmas, so I've never had a problem one way or the other. For us, it's like Dart said: a family gathering, nothing more.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:44 pm
Didn't the idea of putting a Christmas tree in your house originate from Celtic/Norse culture of hanging evergreens around the home during the Winter months?
And I don't understand why people get so upset over seeing Christmas tree or decorations (except for the manger which is much more related to Christianity) in public. How are things like snowmen, garland, santa, reindeer, candy, and stockings related to any kind of religious thing? Those should be able to be on any tree. Now it might be a different story if theres angels everywhere.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:35 pm
FleurEvetteD Didn't the idea of putting a Christmas tree in your house originate from Celtic/Norse culture of hanging evergreens around the home during the Winter months? And I don't understand why people get so upset over seeing Christmas tree or decorations (except for the manger which is much more related to Christianity) in public. How are things like snowmen, garland, santa, reindeer, candy, and stockings related to any kind of religious thing? Those should be able to be on any tree. Now it might be a different story if theres angels everywhere. I can't say for certain, but I'm guessing it's merely the representation. People associate Christmas with Christianity, so anything Christmas-related evokes that image, regardless of its actual origins.
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:44 pm
Zorlock Darksoul FleurEvetteD Didn't the idea of putting a Christmas tree in your house originate from Celtic/Norse culture of hanging evergreens around the home during the Winter months? And I don't understand why people get so upset over seeing Christmas tree or decorations (except for the manger which is much more related to Christianity) in public. How are things like snowmen, garland, santa, reindeer, candy, and stockings related to any kind of religious thing? Those should be able to be on any tree. Now it might be a different story if theres angels everywhere. I can't say for certain, but I'm guessing it's merely the representation. People associate Christmas with Christianity, so anything Christmas-related evokes that image, regardless of its actual origins. True, its just kinda stupid that someone would get upset over someone else putting up Christmas decorations because they want to celebrate the season or they simply like Christmas decorations which could easily be the case instead of them being actually religious. Its not like their actually telling the person to be religious.
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:30 pm
((not Easter, he was born sometime in the summer, not spring)) but I don't think Halloween should be taken off. It's still a holiday, but I don't agree with the 'national paid' concept.... And yes, Christmas should stay as it is. Maybe it's not celebrating at the same time, but it's still celebrating the birth, no matter when in the year the true event actually occured. Also considering the fact that some don't celebrate for the reason ( stare ) It IS a nice break to have. It's a very family oriented couple weeks. When I'm off to college, I'm planning to spend all my time with my little sis, my parents, uncle, aunt, grandparents and cousins. I'd be outraged if December changed in such a way where I couldn't really do that.
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:34 pm
FleurEvetteD Zorlock Darksoul FleurEvetteD Didn't the idea of putting a Christmas tree in your house originate from Celtic/Norse culture of hanging evergreens around the home during the Winter months? And I don't understand why people get so upset over seeing Christmas tree or decorations (except for the manger which is much more related to Christianity) in public. How are things like snowmen, garland, santa, reindeer, candy, and stockings related to any kind of religious thing? Those should be able to be on any tree. Now it might be a different story if theres angels everywhere. I can't say for certain, but I'm guessing it's merely the representation. People associate Christmas with Christianity, so anything Christmas-related evokes that image, regardless of its actual origins. True, its just kinda stupid that someone would get upset over someone else putting up Christmas decorations because they want to celebrate the season or they simply like Christmas decorations which could easily be the case instead of them being actually religious. Its not like their actually telling the person to be religious.
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:27 pm
FleurEvetteD But most Christian scholars do agree that Jesus wasn't born on Christmas, it was Easter. And thats only celebrated for about a day.
Halloween is not a holiday because it was way back in the old days, "the day for the dead", when ghouls and goblins would run around at night! which is why some call it "all hallows eve"
anyone who thinks Halloween should be another holiday is looking for a reason to not be in school or be at work!
as much as I love Halloween, I even still dress up and help decorate the house, I don't think it should ever be a paid holiday!
As for Christmas, it is more of a christian holiday than any other religion, but it is not limited to just the christian people can celebrate it!
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:53 am
I think the holidays should stay the same.
Halloween is great, because kids get to be kids around total strangers. Hell, when I was 5 or so, I didn't put away my Halloween costume until maybe a month later, I kept wearing it around the house. Hurray sugar rush!
As for Christmas... people seriously need to leave it alone. Whether it is or is not the day Christ was born can be proven, somehow, some other way. Suing someone over Christmas decorations because they don't go with the same religious beliefs as them is total bullshit. I haven't kept up with the news on this subject, but I don't know of anyone suing someone over any other religious symbols.
Christmas, as with other religious holidays, is a time for families to get together. The way I see this holiday isn't about the religious factor (even though I am Christian,) but instead the message of giving to others, whether they be in need or just wish for that new bike or pair of shoes.
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:05 am
Ghostface Talon FleurEvetteD But most Christian scholars do agree that Jesus wasn't born on Christmas, it was Easter. And thats only celebrated for about a day.
Halloween is not a holiday because it was way back in the old days, "the day for the dead", when ghouls and goblins would run around at night! which is why some call it "all hallows eve"
anyone who thinks Halloween should be another holiday is looking for a reason to not be in school or be at work!
as much as I love Halloween, I even still dress up and help decorate the house, I don't think it should ever be a paid holiday!
As for Christmas, it is more of a christian holiday than any other religion, but it is not limited to just the christian people can celebrate it!
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:01 pm
I think they should stay as is as well. However keep in mind Halloween wasn't a children's holiday to begin with. It was day that people thought they could talk to the dead or get haunted. As remember Childhood is a new concept within itself.
As far as Christmas goes I do feel that it's just a day for families to spend time together. Its only as religious as you want it to be. I don't understand why people are fighting about Christmas trees and such. I find that silly to be find offense in. You might as well be offended by the Luck Charm's guy. xd Also Christmas is celebrated all over the world so it's a pretty solid holiday. It would be more than a little confusing if you moved it.
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