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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:19 pm
Here you can post questions about what not to wear and what to were and so on! But I even have a question.Im kinda new to Lolita fashion so i wanted to know can you wear jumperskirts that look like summer dresses by thereself or do you need a blouse?Also what are you suposse to wear with highwaisted skirts?
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:25 am
Generally you could wear a JSK with no blouse in the summer time if it was hot enough and it would be ok. I would say usually though, jumpers go with blouses any other time. However, if you want to ease people into your lolita fashion you could wear it and just call it a sun dress, however it may not conform with the style. In the end wear what makes you happy and comfortable.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:05 am
If you feel comfortable wearing the JSK without a blouse, there's no reason you can't. A lot of JSKs were designed to be summer sundresses, with narrow straps and cross-ties at the neck, too. If you feel really uncomfortable about showing your shoulders, you can always cover them up with a light crochet or knit cardigan.
As for highwaisted skirts, you wear the same things with them you would anything else. A blouse or cutsew, and whatever else you want. You can tuck it in, obviously, or if it has a nice hem leave it out. It's up to you.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:40 pm
Actually, mentioning high waist skirts and dress ties at the neck, I have questions about both those. When I wear my high waist skirt, it pushes up the blouse I wear underneath it, thus leaving baggy cotton in the northern department. Should I secure the said blouses with safety pins to the skirt? Also, I attached neck ties to a dress like the ones seen here, but the front sags together from the two being tied behind my neck (if that makes sense...). Should I position them differently or place a wire where the fabric sags?
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:01 pm
Wire sounds like a good idea to add more structure. Is there piping at the top of the dress that the wire can go through without showing? Also, repositioning the straps so they are closer to the center might help.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:11 pm
Crystal Orchid Actually, mentioning high waist skirts and dress ties at the neck, I have questions about both those. When I wear my high waist skirt, it pushes up the blouse I wear underneath it, thus leaving baggy cotton in the northern department. Should I secure the said blouses with safety pins to the skirt? Also, I attached neck ties to a dress like the ones seen here, but the front sags together from the two being tied behind my neck (if that makes sense...). Should I position them differently or place a wire where the fabric sags?
Way late, but. With underbust JSKs and highwaisted skirts, you just have to hike your skirt up and tug the blouse down before you go out. XD;;
For the necktie problem, the reason it's sagging is because it wasn't designed to be worn with those. The dresses that have them were specifically designed that way, so that the fabric won't give. A lot of them have square or elasticated necklines, or else are tailored very carefully so that the fabric won't give when it's on a body.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:20 pm
I think that one lolita don't is: The skirt shouldn't be shorter than 2 inches (with exception of ero lolita)
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Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:17 pm
firelily808 I think that one lolita don't is: The skirt shouldn't be shorter than 2 inches (with exception of ero lolita) I agree, and also think that a dont would be cleavage, although Kana can pull off a little cleavage wink
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:02 pm
What dresses/outfits and accessories are good with rockinghorse shoes?
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:50 pm
Can somebody explain to me the exact reason why square dancing clothing is a don't? That is all I have been able to own and many lolitas here in my homestate think it is lolita clothes... I also use square dancing petticoats. I mean these are things I am trying to get out of but I am wondering just what ,akes bad square dancing stuff and is there some that works because it seems like it.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:02 am
Lady Cecilie Can somebody explain to me the exact reason why square dancing clothing is a don't? That is all I have been able to own and many lolitas here in my homestate think it is lolita clothes... I also use square dancing petticoats. I mean these are things I am trying to get out of but I am wondering just what ,akes bad square dancing stuff and is there some that works because it seems like it. Well, like most lolita "rules", it's a general guideline rather than a hard requirement, because a lot of items from square dancing outfits look similar to lolita without actually being lolita (ie: full skirts, modest necklines, floral motifs and so on).
Some items can definitely be utilized, with or without modification the same way a lot of vintage dresses or traditional drindl dresses can, but many of them will just look off in small details and require adjustment. Others are just right out. For example, a lot of competition square dancing dresses are in super garish colors or materials that just do not work for lolita. They're meant to be flashy and show the movement of the dance, thus they're often shiny as hell. But. You can generally figure out which ones those are and avoid them, and modify the necessary details on the others.
Mostly, people advise against the petticoats because the typical squaredancing petticoat (used for actual competitions, anyway) are 60-100 yards and in the wrong shape. They make your dresses flare out at the HEM, so that when you're dancing it's flashier and there's a bit of petticoat shown when you swirl around. For lolita, however, it turns your skirts into a triangle, which is the wrong shape. They have more fluff at the hem than the hips, because the skirts are a different shape and the purpose is different.
Malco Modes makes lighter weight petticoats for "practice" and informal square dancing situations, which work pretty nicely for A-line dresses and skirts. Likewise for some of their children's petticoats (I have the 1810 children's petticoat). For cupcake-shaped pieces, you have to modify them slightly to get the right silhouette, however.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:24 am
spuntino Lady Cecilie Can somebody explain to me the exact reason why square dancing clothing is a don't? That is all I have been able to own and many lolitas here in my homestate think it is lolita clothes... I also use square dancing petticoats. I mean these are things I am trying to get out of but I am wondering just what ,akes bad square dancing stuff and is there some that works because it seems like it. Well, like most lolita "rules", it's a general guideline rather than a hard requirement, because a lot of items from square dancing outfits look similar to lolita without actually being lolita (ie: full skirts, modest necklines, floral motifs and so on).
Some items can definitely be utilized, with or without modification the same way a lot of vintage dresses or traditional drindl dresses can, but many of them will just look off in small details and require adjustment. Others are just right out. For example, a lot of competition square dancing dresses are in super garish colors or materials that just do not work for lolita. They're meant to be flashy and show the movement of the dance, thus they're often shiny as hell. But. You can generally figure out which ones those are and avoid them, and modify the necessary details on the others.
Mostly, people advise against the petticoats because the typical squaredancing petticoat (used for actual competitions, anyway) are 60-100 yards and in the wrong shape. They make your dresses flare out at the HEM, so that when you're dancing it's flashier and there's a bit of petticoat shown when you swirl around. For lolita, however, it turns your skirts into a triangle, which is the wrong shape. They have more fluff at the hem than the hips, because the skirts are a different shape and the purpose is different.
Malco Modes makes lighter weight petticoats for "practice" and informal square dancing situations, which work pretty nicely for A-line dresses and skirts. Likewise for some of their children's petticoats (I have the 1810 children's petticoat). For cupcake-shaped pieces, you have to modify them slightly to get the right silhouette, however.
Ok then my petticoats should work depending on which skirt style I wear... same for the dresses. One dress I have actually began altering just because it is so hot. This is going to be a long term project because I can't afford new lace just yet. Thank you.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:36 pm
firelily808 I think that one lolita don't is: The skirt shouldn't be shorter than 2 inches (with exception of ero lolita) When you say two inches, do you mean two inches from the waist? eek I can't actually imagine that... I would try not to go higher than two inches above the knee. Maybe three.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:33 am
Kittywitch firelily808 I think that one lolita don't is: The skirt shouldn't be shorter than 2 inches (with exception of ero lolita) When you say two inches, do you mean two inches from the waist? eek I can't actually imagine that... I would try not to go higher than two inches above the knee. Maybe three. I'm wondering the same thing, but I think she means no shorter than two inches above the knee. I wouldn't worry about measuring it, though. As long as the appearance of the skirt and hemlength fits into lolita style, and you like it, wear it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:36 am
Lady Cecilie spuntino Lady Cecilie Can somebody explain to me the exact reason why square dancing clothing is a don't? That is all I have been able to own and many lolitas here in my homestate think it is lolita clothes... I also use square dancing petticoats. I mean these are things I am trying to get out of but I am wondering just what ,akes bad square dancing stuff and is there some that works because it seems like it. Well, like most lolita "rules", it's a general guideline rather than a hard requirement, because a lot of items from square dancing outfits look similar to lolita without actually being lolita (ie: full skirts, modest necklines, floral motifs and so on).
Some items can definitely be utilized, with or without modification the same way a lot of vintage dresses or traditional drindl dresses can, but many of them will just look off in small details and require adjustment. Others are just right out. For example, a lot of competition square dancing dresses are in super garish colors or materials that just do not work for lolita. They're meant to be flashy and show the movement of the dance, thus they're often shiny as hell. But. You can generally figure out which ones those are and avoid them, and modify the necessary details on the others.
Mostly, people advise against the petticoats because the typical squaredancing petticoat (used for actual competitions, anyway) are 60-100 yards and in the wrong shape. They make your dresses flare out at the HEM, so that when you're dancing it's flashier and there's a bit of petticoat shown when you swirl around. For lolita, however, it turns your skirts into a triangle, which is the wrong shape. They have more fluff at the hem than the hips, because the skirts are a different shape and the purpose is different.
Malco Modes makes lighter weight petticoats for "practice" and informal square dancing situations, which work pretty nicely for A-line dresses and skirts. Likewise for some of their children's petticoats (I have the 1810 children's petticoat). For cupcake-shaped pieces, you have to modify them slightly to get the right silhouette, however.
Ok then my petticoats should work depending on which skirt style I wear... same for the dresses. One dress I have actually began altering just because it is so hot. This is going to be a long term project because I can't afford new lace just yet. Thank you. You should post photos of your project in the 'How to Make Anything Lolita' subforum. I'd love to see what you're working on and I know that I'm not the only one who's willing to give you advice or tips if you get stuck.
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