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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:25 pm
ok, i'm warning you right now, this is going to be long and a bit more serious than the stuff that i've been posting lately, alrighty?
ok, so i've been thinking (well, not specifically on this topic, but it just crossed my mind right now) about how people use the phrase "homophobic". see, i'd never understood why they came up with such a word seeing as it was typically homo-hater more than homophobe. my epiphany has prolly crossed your minds a time or two, so i'm prolly just slow, but it doesn't matter, cuz i finally have sense in the world, and i wanna share it.
see, i've noticed that guys usually are cool with lesbians (no, not only the horny guys who wanna see girl on girl action. i mean guys tend to be friends with lesbians) but not with gay men whereas chicks are cool with gay guys, but hate lesbians. now, normally i'd say, "well, you're just close-minded and retarded" but think about it: it makes sense at a certain degree.
guys tend to aviod stuff that challenges their sexuality (well... some guys) and so if they were to hang out with a gay guy, they would suddenly feel immasculated. A lot of girls out there are concieted and deep down swear that everyone that's nice to them must totally want them (uh oh, i'm losing my serious tone!) so in fear that this lesbian will fall in love with them, they regect them. so basically it IS a fear, but its a deep subconscious fear that even they may not realize initially. they're (both guys and chicks) are afraid that they may become gay or that they would be stalked by a gay person who fell in love with them.
i know, i know, this isn't necessarily something new to you guys. but it's really interesting nonetheless, so i wanted to discuss it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:34 pm
that's a pretty interesting revalation.... now that i think about it it DOES make sense...
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:53 pm
Unfortunately, this is very true. Even more unfortunately, this means the most straightforward way to deal with this would be to lower most of the world's population's self esteem. stare
It would be easier if people just wouldn't think about it. If people just didn't think about the differences between other people and themselves AT ALL, so many problems would be solved. However, this cannot be done, so the battle between sides continues to wage on. We can only hope that, eventually, through prolonged exposure to multiple points of view, that society will be able to overcome all differences.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:54 pm
i've kinda given up on hoping for that. i was in english and we were reading about this one guy's (reinert was his name, i believe) philosophy which was extremely paradoxical. see, he believed that despite the fact that evil wasn't reining, we could never defeat it so it's presence would always be in society and human nature because that's just how the world is.
kinda emo, now that i think about it, but that's basically what he said, and it makes sense. so after giving up on humanity ever changing and not being scared of us (cuz we all have some sort of irrational fear, ya know?) i decided to analyze what the hell makes people so scared of us, and i came up with this.
except, when i thought of it, it only took five seconds, but right now it took awhile to explain. hah.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:34 am
You basically got it down with the whole fear thing. But here's another thing to consider.
Lets say there's a very insecure girl. Lets say she doesn't feel good about herself and is very cautious around guys and is scared of their thoughts/opinions. Well She'll normally feel secure and perfectlly fine with a gay guy because he's safe, and will make her feel good about herself.
straight guys normally don't like gay guys because their worried about being hit on, getting criticized by friends, and the whole "mascaline" thing. Not all gay guys are girly, but they get that blinking sign over their heads anyways. Straight guys don't want to be seen with an "unmasculine" guy.
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:22 am
I was always told that a phobia was an extreme fear or dislike of something. Dictionary.com: Phobia- it's a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.
I find those that are homophobic are Gay. They're just running away from theirselves. It's not worth it.... Just come out already. Right? Becasue if you run from yourself, you are running from the world
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:12 am
yep it totally makes sense I lost my first boyfriend because I think he literally scared himself into being straight but w/e life goes on. Honestly I dont get why people are like that if your straight nothing is gonna change that. your not just one day gonna up and go oh im gay now if you dont like guys you dont like guys people need to get overthemselves and stop the hate
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:16 pm
...my life makes since now
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:30 pm
wow...that so very much makes so much sense...but then again i knew it was fear i just believed that it was the fear of them turning gay like many people have said to me, 'i dont wanna hang out with you i may turn gay' but now this makes more sense
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