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 Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:39 pm
I have suspicions about a higher power, "God", or whatever, existing, but it just isn't something that can be proven absolutely. The whole idea of "faith" kind of disturbs me, to be honest. I've never been able to get myself to believe in something that I couldn't see and understand for myself. I actually think believing in all that God BS would make life a bit more pleasant, expecting to go to heaven after death and whatnot. Just can't do it.
The idea of God is and always has been humanity's longest effort at explaining why we're here, and that's really the only way I can look at it.
I do, however, believe that many of the ethics and morals that are associated with most religions are spot on. Jesus's "Sermon on the Mount" is something that I'm pretty sure most people can agree with when viewed upon with an ethical interpretation. Good things have come from religions, and the world certainly would not have developed as it has without them. Though the Church has definitely lost much of it's prominence and importance in society, and realistically I think the world would do fine without it at this point.
I'm strictly a humanist.
And I certainly did not set out to type so much. It kind of just happened.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:44 am
hellosara I don't believe we can explain the universe through maths alone - not yet, possibly not ever. The thing you have to remember is that that's all made up too. Somebody saw something which they wanted to explain, came up with their own logic for rationalising it into numbers and formulae which they could understand. Then other people keep adding beliefs into the same system. Just because the numbers usually add up in a sensible way does not mean that the logic behind it is correct, but once people start believing in a certain scientist's explanations, they're taken to be truth, they're taught as truth, and it requires a far more forceful argument to disprove a widely-accepted scientific theory than to prove it. The process is more similar to the creation of religion, I believe, than a lot of science-oriented people would like to believe.
And, be honest - would a mathematical explanation of life, the universe and everything truly leave you satisfied? Some numbers might make sense together in a pleasing way, but does that actually bear any meaning to you? I'm going to try and respond to Sara and Hect (I wil learn your real names eventually, I promise), so excuse me if I miss anything. Science is very close to religion, I admit. The main difference being (at least for me) that religious ideas and teachings seem to be bent to a person's or society's view of how the world should be and scientific ideas and teachings are bent to describe how the world around us actually works. The reason an opposing argument takes so long to be accepted in the scientific community is more due to the thoroughness of scientists than any ulterior motive. Although, I can't deny that this probably happens a lot. I can honestly say that, if someone proved everything I know to be wrong, after a brief period I could get my head around it. Anyway, I don't have any hope of science and mathematics being able to explain everything around us, ever. That's not really the point. I just look at it as a way of enriching my life. This very moment, I am typing in a language that has evolved through the ages from phonetic sounds relating to the flora and fauna around our ancient selves into a formal mode of communication between millions of people. The means to do this is created from oil and sculpted, not even by human hands, into something ergonomically designed. I get feedback from my input via a flat screen that produces electronically modulated light. All the information going in and out of this contraption is binary. When I click the 'submit' button (by the magic of infra-red or bluetooth), all this information is transmitted thousands of miles to a box that basically stores memories. You, on the other end, access this 'memory' from the same box. Sorry for the wall of text, but you get the idea. I am satisfied by knowing how things work. I don't see how knowing this information, at any depth, can't become a profound part of my life. I'll reiterate again that I'm not sat in a lab trying to piece the bigger picture together when I could be outside enjoying life. I'm watching sunsets like any other romantic, but enjoying the knowledge that the angle of the planet and light being refracted through a cloud of gases is inconceivably perfect.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:43 pm
Mathematics (for me) just adds a greater depth of understanding to the universe. One important thing that I value about the world is just how mortal and feign it is. I mean, I can have a physical reaction to something, or someone, and I know that it can be explained through biochemistry, but in the natural course of things there's only a small amount that I can do to ultimately control it in a short amount of time.
It's really just the intangible feelings (that can be completely analyzed in terms of our current understanding of science) and ideas that make us who we are and what we become.
Oh, and don't be mislead by the first paragraph. The brain is a powerful thing, it just takes large amounts of time to change how it functions.
I'm leaving out tons of ideas, but I'll get to them eventually. I'm a walking box of contradictions, so don't be surprised if the remainder of stuff that I say is in conflict with whatever I've mentioned so far.
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:56 pm
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tiny broken fingers Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:15 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:23 pm
If you liked it, check out some more of their s**t. Good rap group.
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tiny broken fingers Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:49 pm
Y'all Americans be slow on the British MCs.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:09 pm
London Eyes Y'all Americans be slow on the British MCs. So? He's good.
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tiny broken fingers Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:26 am
I roll on d20s London Eyes Y'all Americans be slow on the British MCs. So? He's good. Yeah, but I can think of countless people that are better musically and - in some cases - lyrically.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:04 am
London Eyes Y'all Americans be slow on the British MCs. i'm actually quite proud that i was a huge fan of The Streets since WAY back... a foreing exchange student at my school gave me a cd back when, apparently, they were just starting to get attention in the UK... (not an MC, i know... but i am proud none the less...)
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:44 am
skumskull London Eyes Y'all Americans be slow on the British MCs. i'm actually quite proud that i was a huge fan of The Streets since WAY back... a foreing exchange student at my school gave me a cd back when, apparently, they were just starting to get attention in the UK... (not an MC, i know... but i am proud none the less...) The Streets is technically one man anyways, but either way The Streets are solid for the first two albums. I still need to get you lot into this post-UK garage stuff (Burial definitely).
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