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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 am


Introduction

Now so people don't think that I am anti-tradition and to offer support to my Christian Sister Comfy and other Christian lurkers. I figured I'd start this thread. I really have a great respect for Sacred Tradition though I personally may not agree with it. Since I do actively attend the Episcopal Church I figured I'd start with giving information on the Episcopal, and by extension, the Anglican Church. The Episcopal Church is interesting in that it is considered catholic and reformed. It has many of the elements of Catholicism and gained some things from the Reformation.

Creeds
History
Terminology
Anglican differs from Catholic
Anglican differs from Protestant
Top 10 reasons to be Episcopalian.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:56 am


Creeds of the Church

The Nicene Creed

We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Apostles Creed
I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and
earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.

Athanasian Creed (aka the Trinity)
Whosoever will be saved,
before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith.
Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled,
without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.

And the Catholic Faith is this:
That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity,
neither confounding the Persons,
nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father,
another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost.
But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the
Holy Ghost, is all one, the Glory equal, the Majesty co-eternal.
Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost.

The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy Ghost uncreate.
The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible,
and the Holy Ghost incomprehensible.
The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Ghost eternal.

And yet they are not three eternals, but one eternal.
As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated,
but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible.

So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty,
and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three
Almighties, but one Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God,
and the Holy Ghost is God.
And yet they are not three Gods, but one God.
So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord,
and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords, but one Lord.

For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge
every Person by himself to be both God and Lord,
So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say,
There be three Gods, or three Lords.
The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten.
The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten.
The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son,
neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons;
one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
And in this Trinity none is afore, or after other;
none is greater, or less than another; But the whole three Persons
are co-eternal together and co-equal.
So that in all things, as is aforesaid,
the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
He therefore that will be saved is must think thus of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also
believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess,
that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man;
God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds;
and Man of the substance of his Mother, born in the world;
Perfect God and perfect Man,
of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting.

Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the
Father, as touching his manhood; Who, although he be God and Man,
yet he is not two, but one Christ;
One, not by conversion of the Godhead
into flesh but by taking of the Manhood into God;
One altogether; not by confusion of Substance,
but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul
and flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ;
Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell,
rose again the third day from the dead.
He ascended into heaven, he sitteth at the right hand of the Father,
God Almighty, from whence he will come
to judge the quick and the dead.
At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies
and shall give account for their own works.
And they that have done good shall go into life
everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.

This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully,
he cannot be saved.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 am


History

In progress Please give me a few days.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:58 am


Terminology

Will be updated as needed. Too much to list.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:59 am


Anglican differs from Catholic

Saints are not venerated. Saints are considered holy people who exemplify living a good Christian Life.

Open Communion to all Baptized Christians

Allows participants to dip the bread in the wine.

The official stance regarding the Holy Eucharist is that it is both done in remembrance and as an outward and visible sign of God's inward grace, according to Rite I in the Common Book of Prayer.

Politics of the Church are in the hands of the laity.

Each Diocese is run by a Bishop and is independent of any other Dioceses.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 am


Anglican differs from other Protestants

Do not adhere to Sola Scriptura

Still officially believe, though not widely known, that the Holy Eucharist is an outward and visible sign of God's inward Grace (transubstantiation).

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:01 am


Top 10 Reasons to be an Episcopalian

From Robin Williams

10. No snake handling.

9. You can believe in dinosaurs.

8. Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them.

7. You don't have to check your brains at the door.

6. Pew aerobics.

5. Church year is color-coded.

4. Free wine on Sunday.

3. All of the pageantry - none of the guilt.

2. You don't have to know how to swim to get baptized.

And the Number One reason to be an Episcopalian:

1. No matter what you believe, there's bound to be at least one other Episcopalian who agrees with you.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:10 pm


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Top 10 Reasons to be an Episcopalian

From Robin Williams

10. No snake handling.

9. You can believe in dinosaurs.

8. Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them.

7. You don't have to check your brains at the door.

6. Pew aerobics.

5. Church year is color-coded.

4. Free wine on Sunday.

3. All of the pageantry - none of the guilt.

2. You don't have to know how to swim to get baptized.

And the Number One reason to be an Episcopalian:

1. No matter what you believe, there's bound to be at least one other Episcopalian who agrees with you.


This is a WIN. biggrin

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:16 pm


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Top 10 Reasons to be an Episcopalian

From Robin Williams

10. No snake handling.

9. You can believe in dinosaurs.

8. Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them.

7. You don't have to check your brains at the door.

6. Pew aerobics.

5. Church year is color-coded.

4. Free wine on Sunday.

3. All of the pageantry - none of the guilt.

2. You don't have to know how to swim to get baptized.

And the Number One reason to be an Episcopalian:

1. No matter what you believe, there's bound to be at least one other Episcopalian who agrees with you.


This is a WIN. biggrin
Seconded.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:42 pm


Good ol' Queen Bess, eh?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:26 pm


OMG. Reading the Nicene and Apostle's brings back SO many memories. I was raised in an Episcopalian church. I remember when my brother and I were little we would be huddled up, sharing a Book of Common Prayer to read those creeds until we were older and had them memorized.

And we had a female priest(ess). She was awesome.

Memmmmmmories.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:14 pm


Personally it still seems so odd to refer the female clergy as priestess. I get memories of my time as a fluffy neo-pagan when ever I say it. I came from a protestant background, though it's still odd for me even refer to the male clergy as priests too.

I am ever so fond of the Church I'm attending though I don't agree with all the stances the Bishop who runs the Diocese I am in takes. I don't think my priest does either but he seems to do a good job of keeping politics and spiritual matters separate.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:36 pm


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Personally it still seems so odd to refer the female clergy as priestess. I get memories of my time as a fluffy neo-pagan when ever I say it. I came from a protestant background, though it's still odd for me even refer to the male clergy as priests too.

I am ever so fond of the Church I'm attending though I don't agree with all the stances the Bishop who runs the Diocese I am in takes. I don't think my priest does either but he seems to do a good job of keeping politics and spiritual matters separate.

Sorry; I'm not even sure "priestess" is the correct title sweatdrop . It is a bit odd though, I'll agree to that.
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Personally it still seems so odd to refer the female clergy as priestess. I get memories of my time as a fluffy neo-pagan when ever I say it. I came from a protestant background, though it's still odd for me even refer to the male clergy as priests too.

I am ever so fond of the Church I'm attending though I don't agree with all the stances the Bishop who runs the Diocese I am in takes. I don't think my priest does either but he seems to do a good job of keeping politics and spiritual matters separate.

Sorry; I'm not even sure "priestess" is the correct title sweatdrop . It is a bit odd though, I'll agree to that.
True they are called priests. That just seems odd to me as well. I guess it's just culturally implied gender of the title that I still need to come to terms with.

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