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Zslone2

PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:42 pm


Wow i never knew a simple question would take up this much space on a topic. Thanks for all the info.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:36 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
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Nines19
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Lumanny the Space Jew
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Maybe I'm pulling a major taboo here by writing this, but I've heard in church that his actual name is Elohim (the father, not the son. Let's get that clear).

talk2hand No, 'Elohim' is a Hebrew word that just literally translates to 'god.' It is a common noun, not a name.
Hmm, I learned it was the plural form of God.

More likely a plural form of god. wink Capital vs. lowercase sometimes makes a pretty important distinction.

Elohim is likely similar in nature to Allah; it means god and in context also refers to God.

(Words are fun.)
Okay good, because I was taught that it was the plural form of god by someone who's known Hebrew for about.... 25 years. I couldn't imagine her getting something wrong for so long. XD

No, no, no.
The suffix 'im' denotes it's plural, but the literal trandlation is singular.
If "im" denotes it as plural then... isn't it plural? o_o

comfylove


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:08 am


Thank you all for taking into account what I had to say and giving me feedback on it. I learned so much.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:22 pm


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Lumanny the Space Jew
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Hmm, I learned it was the plural form of God.

More likely a plural form of god. wink Capital vs. lowercase sometimes makes a pretty important distinction.

Elohim is likely similar in nature to Allah; it means god and in context also refers to God.

(Words are fun.)
Okay good, because I was taught that it was the plural form of god by someone who's known Hebrew for about.... 25 years. I couldn't imagine her getting something wrong for so long. XD

No, no, no.
The suffix 'im' denotes it's plural, but the literal trandlation is singular.
If "im" denotes it as plural then... isn't it plural? o_o

No. The expression is 'El HaElohim', god of gods. We call G-d this, or 'Elohim' for short, even though 'Elohim' is actually the word 'gods' in the phrase.
It's just one of those things.
 

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Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:29 pm


And before we get into it, these aren't the actual name either, just indirect nicknames:
Hashem ("The Name")
El
G-d
Eloheinu ("Our god")
Lord
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:27 pm


Lumanny the Space Jew
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Nines19
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Hmm, I learned it was the plural form of God.

More likely a plural form of god. wink Capital vs. lowercase sometimes makes a pretty important distinction.

Elohim is likely similar in nature to Allah; it means god and in context also refers to God.

(Words are fun.)
Okay good, because I was taught that it was the plural form of god by someone who's known Hebrew for about.... 25 years. I couldn't imagine her getting something wrong for so long. XD

No, no, no.
The suffix 'im' denotes it's plural, but the literal trandlation is singular.
If "im" denotes it as plural then... isn't it plural? o_o

No. The expression is 'El HaElohim', god of gods. We call G-d this, or 'Elohim' for short, even though 'Elohim' is actually the word 'gods' in the phrase.
It's just one of those things.

Like saying "America" as a form of "United States of America".

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:48 pm


Nines19
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Okay good, because I was taught that it was the plural form of god by someone who's known Hebrew for about.... 25 years. I couldn't imagine her getting something wrong for so long. XD

No, no, no.
The suffix 'im' denotes it's plural, but the literal trandlation is singular.
If "im" denotes it as plural then... isn't it plural? o_o

No. The expression is 'El HaElohim', god of gods. We call G-d this, or 'Elohim' for short, even though 'Elohim' is actually the word 'gods' in the phrase.
It's just one of those things.

Like saying "America" as a form of "United States of America".

Yes, exactly.
In this situation, the object of the preposition happens to be plural, so it seems like a plural noun even though it's singular.
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:52 pm


Yhwh Elohe Ẓeba'ot
Shem ha-Meyuḥad
Shem ha-Meforash
Shem ben Arba' Otiyyot
Adonai
Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh
Elohim
Shaddai Hu' Lo
El
Yhwh
Shaddai
El 'Elyon

These are among some of the names...

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chessiejo

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:39 pm


i was told that Elohim is an "honorific plural", such as royalty use.

as Queen Victoria, when she said "WE are not amused."
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