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 Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:13 pm
Ok, I'm signed up for quite a few other guilds and I've been noticing that almost all of the members on each one go out of their way to start arguments and drama. Has this become a normal part of today’s human nature? Have you noticed things that don't seem right in today’s society?
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:42 pm
I don't think it's anything special about today's society. The fact is that everyone just wants to be right and that means that the other person has to be wrong. People will go to great lengths to prove how right they are, even when it's unnecessary.
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:53 pm
Let's face it: It feels really damn good to be right.
When you have the proper answer in class, it makes you happy. When you find the right solution to a problem, you feel accomplished.
The problem is that a lot of questions and problems in real life don't have a solid answer, and it freaks some people out. To cope with this, they come up with an answer (either thought up in their own minds or fed to them from outside) and turn it (mind you, this is still in their mind) into THE answer.
Which means all other answers, no matter how valid, must be wrong. The difference between discussion and drama comes at the point where they confront another idea that is outside their "answer". Discussion is comparison, compromise, and synthesis, whereas drama is the mildly neurotic attachment to that "THE ANSWER", afraid of the stability lost should that actually not be "THE ANSWER". (Which, of course, it's not.)
The less people feel in control and secure in their lives, the more they cling to what little stability they can find (whether this is religion, politics, finances, or whatever). And they will attack like a cornered animal any attempts to rip that away from them. Once a person has a basic level of security in their life, their mind begins to open to possibility once more.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:48 pm
aparantly todays people are too stupid to admit when they are proven wrong, when it comes to religion thats when the fights really start up though
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:46 pm
inverse-actuality aparantly todays people are too stupid to admit when they are proven wrong, when it comes to religion thats when the fights really start up though That's mostly because it's near impossible to prove or disprove the validity of a religion.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:08 pm
Obscurus That's mostly because it's near impossible to prove or disprove the validity of a religion. This is true, but as science progresses and we learn more about the past, that may change. For example This artical is a bit old but the project is still in progress, it could be the actual ark or it could be something else only time will tell. (I used this example cuz I couldn't think of anything else xp )
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:54 pm
EvMechan11 Obscurus That's mostly because it's near impossible to prove or disprove the validity of a religion. This is true, but as science progresses and we learn more about the past, that may change. For example This artical is a bit old but the project is still in progress, it could be the actual ark or it could be something else only time will tell. (I used this example cuz I couldn't think of anything else xp ) Still though, that boat could fit the description exactly but there would be no way to tell if Noah actually put two of every animal on it. And I'm a little worried that it's Christian archaeologists working on it. Of course they're going to say it's actually Noah's Ark; their faith rests on that. No amount of physical evidence will ever prove or disprove the existence of any deity. Christianity is just one faith among many with different ideas and stories about god(s).
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:52 pm
azana, I LOVE your post.
The thing about perhaps stuff we might discuss here is that psychicism is something experienced very personally. There are commen human threads, sure, but many experiences can be very unique.
If you look at the idea that all the universe is an illusion, but for our chemical mental interpretation of our sensory inputs, then certainly, something philosophacle and abstract such as god(s), religion, spirits, the universe and all that mess... well? It's just hard to say what is right.
On that note, there are some answers that are right. When I am sitting at a hard wood table, it has very specific physical components. Someone might thing it is a smooth table, while someone else might wished it had been repolished. Physical composition and structure is the same, but the interpretation varies. Still, you know it's not a cat, or a colored pencil, or a bath tub. In some cases, you have to stop, and say... is this person interpretting this differently than I am, or are they seriously just full of crap. I KNOW that was a table!
But then, what if you are wrong??? weeeird thought...
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:20 pm
On the subject of behavior, Humans are naturally, petty, arrogant, foolish, and most of all, impulsive... Humans seem, to me at least, to have a need for arguments, such that they seem to thrive from it...
On the subject of religion, Humans are also prone to erratic behavior, including the invention of imaginary friends, such as, a god.
And when such beliefs are challenged by LOGIC it triggers the petty, arrogant foolish, impulsive aspects!
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