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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:13 pm


You know, I came across Homosexuality a bit when I was writing a Junior thesis, and upon gathering resources as well as making various connections I came up with a rather serious conclusion.

Homosexuality is a physiological symptom that comes from parental abnormality.

Let me rephrase that, Homosexuality, in itself is as wrong as breathing the wrong way because that is the way your parents told you to. They are the ones that committed the problem as they were the one that made you do it. Now you have to go through life breathing different than everyone else and must deal with the consequence of their actions.

Now the way I arrived at this was, funnily enough, was by a refusal preconceived notion. In this case, I learned that a gay man's brain chemistry is in fact much like a woman's and acts differently to pheromones than normal man's. Now, this makes sense, as they would have to have this in order be classified as they are. Where is the preconceived notion comes in is that this is usually used to prove that gays are actually born different, genetically, and it would seem that way. I mean you get you computer and it's preprogramed, right?

The human brain is enormously complex, it's not for nothing the brain surgeons are so well payed. But it however, doesn't come out of a box. A child that has just been born has about enough in it's brain to breath, and that's about it. Human beings develop around 90% of brain chemistry between the ages of 0-4. Any abnormality at those ages have magnified results as that child grows up, abnormalitys such as abuse, lack of a parent, threatening events, etc.

Known abnormalitys from child abuse (the broadest and fast growing abnormality at that age) include increased chances for future drug addiction, alcoholism, and increased chances for future criminal arrests. Another factor includes increase chances of becoming sexual offenders and other future . One of the factors that is blamed for this is a difference in brain chemistry.

Now, if gays have a different brain chemistry than regular men, and such differences are caused by parents then it the parents fault. It is wrong to call homosexuality wrong just as it is to call a fear of dogs wrong. One should instead call the events that cause such behavior, and in this case it is easy to see the the cause is wrong. Child abuse is indeed outlawed by all here correct?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:21 pm


joeking231
You know, I came across Homosexuality a bit when I was writing a Junior thesis, and upon gathering resources as well as making various connections I came up with a rather serious conclusion.

Homosexuality is a physiological symptom that comes from parental abnormality.

Let me rephrase that, Homosexuality, in itself is as wrong as breathing the wrong way because that is the way your parents told you to. They are the ones that committed the problem as they were the one that made you do it. Now you have to go through life breathing different than everyone else and must deal with the consequence of their actions.

Now the way I arrived at this was, funnily enough, was by a refusal preconceived notion. In this case, I learned that a gay man's brain chemistry is in fact much like a woman's and acts differently to pheromones than normal man's. Now, this makes sense, as they would have to have this in order be classified as they are. Where is the preconceived notion comes in is that this is usually used to prove that gays are actually born different, genetically, and it would seem that way. I mean you get you computer and it's preprogramed, right?

The human brain is enormously complex, it's not for nothing the brain surgeons are so well payed. But it however, doesn't come out of a box. A child that has just been born has about enough in it's brain to breath, and that's about it. Human beings develop around 90% of brain chemistry between the ages of 0-4. Any abnormality at those ages have magnified results as that child grows up, abnormalitys such as abuse, lack of a parent, threatening events, etc.

Known abnormalitys from child abuse (the broadest and fast growing abnormality at that age) include increased chances for future drug addiction, alcoholism, and increased chances for future criminal arrests. Another factor includes increase chances of becoming sexual offenders and other future . One of the factors that is blamed for this is a difference in brain chemistry.

Now, if gays have a different brain chemistry than regular men, and such differences are caused by parents then it the parents fault. It is wrong to call homosexuality wrong just as it is to call a fear of dogs wrong. One should instead call the events that cause such behavior, and in this case it is easy to see the the cause is wrong. Child abuse is indeed outlawed by all here correct?


I have read these ideas before, and I do believe they are under scrutiny. Most importantly, what is it that causes the change? A fear of dogs, snakes, ect. is one we can pin point. My little brother was bitten on the nose by a snake when he was little. He knows, of course, that most snakes, in particular, the ones we come across on a regular basis (we got a bunch of Banded Water Snakes and Garter Snakes around here) are completely harmless, but it still scares him.

What sort of child abuse leads to homosexuality? What is the trigger point then? Also, is it abuse if it's something completely inconsequential? What harm is being done to the child?

Like all other ideas about the "Cause" of Homosexuality, this one is incomplete.


Though I've always been more keen on this point- What does it matter? I look at my friends Laura and Lauren and see the happiest couple I know outside of myself and Amber (my girlfriend, as implied by the context clues). Most importantly, they hurt no one. They keep to themselves, work eight hours a day, and pay taxes like the rest of us.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:50 pm


Matt Pniewski
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You know, I came across Homosexuality a bit when I was writing a Junior thesis, and upon gathering resources as well as making various connections I came up with a rather serious conclusion.

Homosexuality is a physiological symptom that comes from parental abnormality.

Let me rephrase that, Homosexuality, in itself is as wrong as breathing the wrong way because that is the way your parents told you to. They are the ones that committed the problem as they were the one that made you do it. Now you have to go through life breathing different than everyone else and must deal with the consequence of their actions.

Now the way I arrived at this was, funnily enough, was by a refusal preconceived notion. In this case, I learned that a gay man's brain chemistry is in fact much like a woman's and acts differently to pheromones than normal man's. Now, this makes sense, as they would have to have this in order be classified as they are. Where is the preconceived notion comes in is that this is usually used to prove that gays are actually born different, genetically, and it would seem that way. I mean you get you computer and it's preprogramed, right?

The human brain is enormously complex, it's not for nothing the brain surgeons are so well payed. But it however, doesn't come out of a box. A child that has just been born has about enough in it's brain to breath, and that's about it. Human beings develop around 90% of brain chemistry between the ages of 0-4. Any abnormality at those ages have magnified results as that child grows up, abnormalitys such as abuse, lack of a parent, threatening events, etc.

Known abnormalitys from child abuse (the broadest and fast growing abnormality at that age) include increased chances for future drug addiction, alcoholism, and increased chances for future criminal arrests. Another factor includes increase chances of becoming sexual offenders and other future . One of the factors that is blamed for this is a difference in brain chemistry.

Now, if gays have a different brain chemistry than regular men, and such differences are caused by parents then it the parents fault. It is wrong to call homosexuality wrong just as it is to call a fear of dogs wrong. One should instead call the events that cause such behavior, and in this case it is easy to see the the cause is wrong. Child abuse is indeed outlawed by all here correct?


I have read these ideas before, and I do believe they are under scrutiny. Most importantly, what is it that causes the change? A fear of dogs, snakes, ect. is one we can pin point. My little brother was bitten on the nose by a snake when he was little. He knows, of course, that most snakes, in particular, the ones we come across on a regular basis (we got a bunch of Banded Water Snakes and Garter Snakes around here) are completely harmless, but it still scares him.

What sort of child abuse leads to homosexuality? What is the trigger point then? Also, is it abuse if it's something completely inconsequential? What harm is being done to the child?

Like all other ideas about the "Cause" of Homosexuality, this one is incomplete.


Though I've always been more keen on this point- What does it matter? I look at my friends Laura and Lauren and see the happiest couple I know outside of myself and Amber (my girlfriend, as implied by the context clues). Most importantly, they hurt no one. They keep to themselves, work eight hours a day, and pay taxes like the rest of us.


Yeah we don't know what the cause of homosexual attraction is. What we do know so far is that it's part of normal human sexual development per APA. It's not considered a pathology nor is is considered a psychosis.

We know is that traditionally within Christianity and its Hebrew predecessors it was considered spiritually unclean since it didn't create life and it was closely linked with idolatry and prostitution. I don't think the creation of life needs to be a primary purpose of sex and homosexual sex doesn't have to be linked to idolatry nor prostitution as it was in the past. It can be fit into the context of Christian marriage.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:00 pm


Matt Pniewski
joeking231
You know, I came across Homosexuality a bit when I was writing a Junior thesis, and upon gathering resources as well as making various connections I came up with a rather serious conclusion.

Homosexuality is a physiological symptom that comes from parental abnormality.

Let me rephrase that, Homosexuality, in itself is as wrong as breathing the wrong way because that is the way your parents told you to. They are the ones that committed the problem as they were the one that made you do it. Now you have to go through life breathing different than everyone else and must deal with the consequence of their actions.

Now the way I arrived at this was, funnily enough, was by a refusal preconceived notion. In this case, I learned that a gay man's brain chemistry is in fact much like a woman's and acts differently to pheromones than normal man's. Now, this makes sense, as they would have to have this in order be classified as they are. Where is the preconceived notion comes in is that this is usually used to prove that gays are actually born different, genetically, and it would seem that way. I mean you get you computer and it's preprogramed, right?

The human brain is enormously complex, it's not for nothing the brain surgeons are so well payed. But it however, doesn't come out of a box. A child that has just been born has about enough in it's brain to breath, and that's about it. Human beings develop around 90% of brain chemistry between the ages of 0-4. Any abnormality at those ages have magnified results as that child grows up, abnormalitys such as abuse, lack of a parent, threatening events, etc.

Known abnormalitys from child abuse (the broadest and fast growing abnormality at that age) include increased chances for future drug addiction, alcoholism, and increased chances for future criminal arrests. Another factor includes increase chances of becoming sexual offenders and other future . One of the factors that is blamed for this is a difference in brain chemistry.

Now, if gays have a different brain chemistry than regular men, and such differences are caused by parents then it the parents fault. It is wrong to call homosexuality wrong just as it is to call a fear of dogs wrong. One should instead call the events that cause such behavior, and in this case it is easy to see the the cause is wrong. Child abuse is indeed outlawed by all here correct?


I have read these ideas before, and I do believe they are under scrutiny. Most importantly, what is it that causes the change? A fear of dogs, snakes, ect. is one we can pin point. My little brother was bitten on the nose by a snake when he was little. He knows, of course, that most snakes, in particular, the ones we come across on a regular basis (we got a bunch of Banded Water Snakes and Garter Snakes around here) are completely harmless, but it still scares him.

What sort of child abuse leads to homosexuality? What is the trigger point then? Also, is it abuse if it's something completely inconsequential? What harm is being done to the child?

Like all other ideas about the "Cause" of Homosexuality, this one is incomplete.


Though I've always been more keen on this point- What does it matter? I look at my friends Laura and Lauren and see the happiest couple I know outside of myself and Amber (my girlfriend, as implied by the context clues). Most importantly, they hurt no one. They keep to themselves, work eight hours a day, and pay taxes like the rest of us.


As with most cases concerning the brain, a lot is mystery. Effects of chemicals and actions swirling about and changing millions of times a day is completely unfathomable to itself. Indeed you bring up a good point with your brother, and I myself suffered a similar incident with a dog. I know that my golden retriever is harmless, but he still scares me when sneaks up on me.

It would be incredibly hard to track the cause as both parties (parent and child) in question are naturally unconsciously unwilling, as both have done their best to forget such tragic moments. Gathering data would be a monumental task, so for a time we must theorize on what we know. For my junior thesis I found a college study that found that 87 percent of college age homosexuals were abused as children, one side note added that many gays could not be used as data due to the fact that they 1 or more parents missing in there childhood. It is incomplete, but it is, I've found, the most complete theory.

As to your other point, I wanted to shake your hand, I do believe I pointed the same thing in another thread on gaia, it might be this one as far as I remember. That's the thing I'm trying to point out with this, is that they are no different than me or your brother. It's merely a difference in experience and a change in process in which homosexuality is consequence. Indeed, I've meet many gay and lesbian couples that are not only incredibly funny people, but insanely gifted as well.

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