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yes, yes i have another problem but it not a person on person argument like my last issue , but the growing issue at my school and the rising hate for anime or the anime style. When i first heard this i thought nothing of this cause i didn't really care cause granted everyone is entitled to their opinion. Plus i don't deem myself to be an all around anime drawer, because i do use anime as references at times and i enjoy some of the anime style, but i also use figure construction and realistic feel to my art or so i try.

Then now during this summer term in college, i have a group of folks in my 2-D animation class who are saying that anime is "crap animation" and saying that people need to stop with drawing anime cause its not a good art style. Granted there are some things about anime i dislike myself, but still not all anime is bad or crap as they put it. because last time i checked there are a lot of American cartoons i have seen that down right suck or have horrible style and animation.

so im just confused why people believe anime sucks or is terrible? no i haven't asked these people why they feel this way, and personally i don't want to. Finally my question to you is how do you feel about anime? what are your likes and dislikes about it? what is your favorite style or artist that is close to what you like drawing or animation wise, and what is anime to you?

thanks for replying, i know this debate has been around longer then i even started drawing, but it's the fact that i'm in college and this junk is still present, so i'm just wondering am i just fooling myself or are these people wrong. Well to answer my own questions so you guys get a feeling on how i view this subject.

why do people believe anime sucks?
personally i believe that there is a giant fan base around popular animes in america and since being expose to this they get annoyed by anime in a whole and find whys to tear it apart. To tell the truth im not a big fan of drawing a character i have seen before or drawing the infamous "furry". Don't get me wrong i like anthropomorphic figures and drawing, but the weird and awkward furry pron is where i cross the line. I think this is probably the only thing people have against anime and i can understand why.

how do i feel about anime?
i like anime its a great style among many other great styles that i have seen

likes/dislikes about anime?
this applies to all art, but i can just say that i don't like characters with poor construction and sloppy looking, or have oddly sized noses/ears/eyebrows/teeth (unless your making a face to push the expression)

what is anime?
i studied this and to tell the truth i don't know what people are referring to when they say anime, cause anime has such a wide spread and over all board description.

this is anime

"man, its been weeks since i put this up..."


"personally, i have no comments on any of the new stuff posted, i can understand what everyone is saying and where they come from. i belive that it a combination of your 3 post. that yes anime gets alot of fan-base and colleges doing their jobs teachs people the roots of drawing an animation before they start teaching you the good stuff which they should do. Also people like Acid who doesn't really care for anime sees all this anime junk everywhere and the conventions people go to to dress up all weird seems dumb and out of place and to me it is. My drawing background started in highschool and was anime but i soon saw that people were just copying famous character from their favorite shows and drawing them poorly and not pushing themselves to figure out how that person was put together. when i first started out, i drew my own characters out of my head and yes they had elements from things i seen but they weren't copies, becuase you can't draw a character from some show and think your awesome cuase your not really using creavity.

so i came up with my own conclusion that people are referring to the fan base of anime and not anime itself."

I was a diehard DBZ fan *loser* ^^;;; But then things started getting blonder, hairier, and more muscley to the point it hurt my eyes. I think when I stopped watching that I forgot about anime things for awhile until the drama group exploded on me.

The only manga I've ever read was DeathNote because my friend recommended it to me, and I had spare time during all my classes so I decided I would read it. But once I was finished I found that although the plot was kinda good with how they figure out all their technicalities, I saw no interest in it.

And then from there I wished I hadn't read it, because the drama group was like 'LAWL ITZ AWSOMORZ' and soooo fan-obsessed.

Fandom ruins everything.


And a note about the conventions. I go to those now (they're actually kinda fun). Yes there is a lot of....scary fans there at times((holy crap, I forgot to tell you guys, but while I was there as Degrading!Genesis some guy came up behind me, wrapped his arm around my waist, and said that he loved me. >< I was very surprised and like 'omgwtfbbq!)), but it's also a place to show off more than one talent. Such as, a lot of people go and sell their art there (often anime based) but there's also people who dress up in costumes that really pull off some awesome crap.

This one girl dressed up in a full werewolf outfit. She made it all by herself! The jaws moved and the eyes glowed and everything. Here is a picture

But yeah. I'm just saying cons are more than just promotions for anime-based things. I'll shut up now >>;; Especially since we were supposed to discuss style. ><

The problem is that people don't know much about it. Most people see kids that like anime and they are 'weird' (and proud) and so they dis everything that they like. It's the same when someone doesn't like something just because it's popular. Basically it's them taking the easy route to deciding their position on anime.
I say that anime is a style. It's a style that is very similar to each other and it's hard to evolve as an artist in it but it's a style non-the-less. Many learn to draw anime by copying so art teachers tend to scorn it saying that they are just copying, not learning. But there are a couple different types of anime. There is the curvy squishy usually used in high school dramas and such. And there is the pointy a bit more realistic with is usually used in action. But most everyone's anime style is either one of these two or right in the middle.
I draw anime myself, but I'm taking the skills I learned while drawing this and changing it to create my own style. I'm not sure if it will be necessarily anime like or not but hopefully it will ease people off of my drawing. I have heard the whole "it's a bunch of crap" deal too many times.
I like anime in the fact that it's simple and easy to learn with, but it's also hard to get out of the habit of drawing like it. I do like anime though, a lot. And I draw it a lot. I personally like anime better than most American cartoons nowadays. The stories are better and so is the animation. But I shall stop here 'cause I can go ranting for days about this.