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 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:29 am
Hi, I'm going to be a junior in high school, and I'm planning on double majoring (or double degreeing if the school offers it) in music ed and performance. Any advice on where to apply to for those already in college? I've heard lots of mixed reviews about applying to big universities, smaller schools, and conservatories. For example big schools there might be too many students, so you might not get to study with the music professor you would want too until your an upper classman, with smaller schools, they might have an amazing teacher for your instrument, but the ensemble opportunities sometimes are not as good, and you'll miss out on the experience, and with conservatories its all or nothing once you graduate. Since your main focus is performance, there's no way that you can major or minor in something else as a fall back if you do not go all the way and get a good job when you get out.
I need opinions. Obviously I still have time to practice, and to think about where I want to apply because I still have a year before applications need to be sent in, but senior year feels like its coming pretty fast (even if junior year hasn't even started), and I need to start looking at audition material to start practicing so I can feel totally prepared for my audition. Any opinions? Also please list what you think are good schools.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:18 am
well, i know that Fresno state in CA has an awesome marching band/ music program. a few friends of mine are going there as music majors.
also, CalArts. they are really expencive, but ZOMG they are awesome. if you are willing to audition to get into school and work your tail off for scholarships.
um....
Julliard....lol
Berkly has a really good music performance program...
those are just a few of the schools i know off the top of my head.
i know some Christian liberal arts schools that have really awesome music programs with tuns of opportunities as well, but i dont know/wont ask what your religious views are.
those schools are
Azusa pasific
Biola
Vangard
and Westmont.
those are just some that i checked out when i graduated.
Good luck!
picking colleges is hard.
even besides the major, you have to know what kind of place you want to live in, how far from home, and all that fun stuff.
it's hard, but i believe in you!
i'm sure your teachers would love to help you too.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:48 pm
First and foremost I would say Julliard...but with the audition to even have a thought of being accepted, it can be a let down. University of Michigan has a great school of music in Ann Arbor, Michigan. But then again I hear Duke and Ball State also have decent schools of music. I know U of M in Ann Arbor has a great one, not being bias since I live in Michigan, but I have taken classes there. The professors are all top notch and the school itself is very good and well known.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:03 am
I'm the same way. I'm going to be a sophomore. I originally chose a larger state school, mostly because of the marching band. They had a symphonic band, in which I got second chair (thanks to massive, multiple embouchure changes), a wind ensemble, and an orchestra. They had many small groups, as well. However, I made the mistake of not hearing enough about the horn professor. He was a total jerk, a horrible teacher (I played about two pages of music all fall semester), and he was also a creep, if you get my meaning. So I transferred at the semester. Now I'm going to a really small college. I love the horn teacher here because he works with me. His personality is a better fit for me, but he really knows what he's doing. If he can't get a point across to me, he finds other ways to put it. In short, he's an excellent teacher. However, the trade off is the ensembles. We have a wind ensemble and an orchestra. Both of them are about as good as my high school wind ensemble (which wasn't really that great). There aren't any quartets, etc. unless you make them yourself. Needless to say, trying to worry about intonation is like hitting your head against a brick wall. However, I would recommend finding a good teacher over finding good ensembles. As a performance major, your instructor will be directly responsible for how good you are and therefore how much money you will make. If you can only find a good instructor at a small, musically-challenged school, it's worth it. In the meantime, I would definitely recommend taking private lessons, if you don't already. That way, you have an idea of what instructors are like and you will improve a lot.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:15 am
Loyola, it's in New Orleans, it's great
KU has some good performance related things.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:21 pm
um, I'm going to be a senior this year. And I haven't chosen a school yet. sweatdrop
However, I don't think I'll be majoring in music, so it's not a big factor for me. Many state schools typically have wonderful band programs. You should just be sure to go to a school that is right for you.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:26 pm
I've been looking at Northwestern pretty closely lately, because of their AMAZING brass faculty, but my grades are average (3.2), and not at their average level I know I still have time to raise my over all gpa, but how much does your entrance audition hold over your grades in most schools?
I've also been looking at DePaul University in Chicago, because of the horn teachers, but I don't know how their ensembles are. Any opinions?
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:52 pm
Location is a key factor, too. I'm going to be a senior, and I've decided on UC Sata Cruz in California. They have a nice music program, and though other Universities have nicer music programs, this University offers video game design/development, which is my other major. So, I'm going to be doing a double major, too. The location is awesome, though; redwood trees everywhere, beach close by, surfing, ultimate frisbee, open art studio, and lots more. I just love that school.
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:16 pm
*shameless plug*
I go to Appalachian State in North Carolina and it is pretty nice.
You should check out cannon music camp, it is a good camp for kids to get a feel of what it is like to be a music major.
We are also known as 'the Julliard of the south' razz
One piece of advice is that don't worry to heavily about your undergrad, there is always grad school.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:44 pm
In contrast to Tubariffic's biased opinion, James Madison University has a really good music program for any kind of music major.
I know a guy who performance majored and he said he wouldn't have had it any other way.
They have a music camp in early July and it's great for everybody and anybody, you don't have to be from VA. I know people from that camp who were from Tennessee and Pennsylvania.
*/biased opinion*
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:25 pm
megamanfan66 Location is a key factor, too. I'm going to be a senior, and I've decided on UC Sata Cruz in California. They have a nice music program, and though other Universities have nicer music programs, this University offers video game design/development, which is my other major. So, I'm going to be doing a double major, too. The location is awesome, though; redwood trees everywhere, beach close by, surfing, ultimate frisbee, open art studio, and lots more. I just love that school. Thats true, I want to go to a school in the city where I'll access to see and hear lots of professional orchestras
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:37 pm
what are your opinions with small schools with an amazing teacher that you'd love to study with, but the ensembles aren't as good as bigger universities.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:44 pm
candy!x0x0 what are your opinions with small schools with an amazing teacher that you'd love to study with, but the ensembles aren't as good as bigger universities. By good do you mean big? If the school has an awesome director, it wouldn't matter imho. If it weren't a private school, I would go to Lewis and Clark because I've worked with the band director there on a couple separate occasions and I enjoyed his directing style. I haven't heard the wind ensemble there but I'm sure that with Dr. Becker at the podium it's a fabulous band. And L&C isn't really that big. On the other hand, Oregon State has an excellent wind ensemble probably because it's a bigger school and there's a lot of talent. I don't have any experience with the director, however. And you wouldn't get much personal direction I would assume because of the fact that it's a bigger band, whereas in the smaller ensemble you would get more specialized treatment, just like in a regular classroom. Basically, if you know the teacher is good, go with that.
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:07 am
Kirei_chan candy!x0x0 what are your opinions with small schools with an amazing teacher that you'd love to study with, but the ensembles aren't as good as bigger universities. By good do you mean big? If the school has an awesome director, it wouldn't matter imho. If it weren't a private school, I would go to Lewis and Clark because I've worked with the band director there on a couple separate occasions and I enjoyed his directing style. I haven't heard the wind ensemble there but I'm sure that with Dr. Becker at the podium it's a fabulous band. And L&C isn't really that big. On the other hand, Oregon State has an excellent wind ensemble probably because it's a bigger school and there's a lot of talent. I don't have any experience with the director, however. And you wouldn't get much personal direction I would assume because of the fact that it's a bigger band, whereas in the smaller ensemble you would get more specialized treatment, just like in a regular classroom. Basically, if you know the teacher is good, go with that. I'm sorry, my last comment was unclear. I wasn't saying that smaller schools never have better bands than the larger universities, but generally due to more people in the larger universities, they have a larger selection of players, and the competition to get into the better ensembles increases (unless your talking about an amazing conservatory like Julliard, which then the competition lies within actually getting into the school, and staying in it ect...) Between larger universities, and smaller schools, they could both have amazing directors, but due to the size of the school, it might be easier to get into the group with the better director due to lack of people. I guess that could be a good thing, or a bad thing because it would be good to work with a good director as much as possible, but its also good to have lots of competition and something to work for. Ahhh its so confusing!!!!! College searching is so hard!
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